Goldenyears 0 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Sorry if this has been asked countless times already, but search didn't locate any answers. Simple question: does ESET Smart Security protection make it reasonably safe to continue using XP? I would like to avoid migrating to Windows 7, and I won't migrate to Windows 8 under any circumstances. Edited March 8, 2014 by Goldenyears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweX 871 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Hello Goldenyears, Yes ESET software NOD32/ESS will continue to work under XP as they do today last I heard. Though, if your computer can run Win7 then I would really consider to upgrade. In my case it's not worth it at all so I will buy a new computer instead of upgrading the OS. But it won't run Win8/8.1 I can promise you that. I believe there are softwares out there an XP user can run to try to stop an attack, Google around and you shall find some answers. But a permanent OS fix by MS is still much better and safer. If ESET alone will be enough without the OS patches after April 8. IMO the answer is No. I think you know the golden rules Keep your OS up to date. Keep your software, browsers, etc etc up to date.... But following the rule "keep the OS "up to date" after April 8 is more of an mission impossible. I wonder how many XP users that would show up on an official XP funeral if MS would have one. Edited March 9, 2014 by SweX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi 549 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Hello, Please check out this thread, and follow the links for some info regarding your topic. https://forum.eset.com/topic/1994-quote-from-aryeh-yeah/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders PodrskaNORT 17 Posted March 11, 2014 ESET Insiders Share Posted March 11, 2014 Hi I think there is, as always, a lot of "IF...THEN" situations and a number of compromises. You can jump to Linux ;-) In these circumstances - your XP is left without security fixes (as SweX stated - it's essential security measure) + you are hesitating to migrate to Win7 / Win81 - could be the perfect time for switch? Ubuntu is now polished.. if new GUI is too hardware intensive - you can select Lubuntu. Unless you have some superimportant unique custom-made hardware / software.. in which case you shouldn't connect to the Net with this machine in first place - thus, patches are not important at all (as they can smash OS, too). ESET will do its best in a nonpatched environment for years... you can install some ESET's programs even on Windows 2000, cca four years after its EoS! <OFFTOPIC>Can you guys please elaborate why not switch to 8.1? :-)I was a bit of "hesitating Win8 type", too, but now that I installed 8.1 on two computers - I love it! And one of them is not-at-all-new laptop with rather small and slow disk. Of course, it takes some time to adjust to changes. I *do* miss classic Start button and I try to hit it about 500 times a day :-) But I still don't want to tweak Win8 to enable it - I just want to train myself into "new interface"! </OFFTOPIC> Tomo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi 549 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Hello Pod, You can proceed to www.ninite.com and select Classic start to have your start menu re-integrated in to windows 8 or 8.1 No more clicking and receiving unexpected results. I hated windows 8, but then i bought a touchscreen laptop and am using it now. I absolutely love it as well. Still will not use it in a desktop environment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomFace 539 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Hello Goldenyears, Yes ESET software NOD32/ESS will continue to work under XP as they do today last I heard. Though, if your computer can run Win7 then I would really consider to upgrade. In my case it's not worth it at all so I will buy a new computer instead of upgrading the OS. But it won't run Win8/8.1 I can promise you that. I believe there are softwares out there an XP user can run to try to stop an attack, Google around and you shall find some answers. But a permanent OS fix by MS is still much better and safer. If ESET alone will be enough without the OS patches after April 8. IMO the answer is No. I think you know the golden rules Keep your OS up to date. Keep your software, browsers, etc etc up to date.... But following the rule "keep the OS "up to date" after April 8 is more of an mission impossible. I wonder how many XP users that would show up on an official XP funeral if MS would have one. I'd be there! I loved my XP machine, but it died . 7 is OK (I have adapted), but I have heard too many 8 horror stories . So Swex-what will you choose? Inquiring minds want to know ! Edited March 12, 2014 by TomFace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi 549 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Swex is debating OSX lol /run /hide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweX 871 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Swex is debating OSX lol /run /hide What do you mean lol You should be happy that i'm not debating Win 8.1 and consider that an "upgrade" option as I will use the OS in a desktop environment just like you. /come back /be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweX 871 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) I hated windows 8 That's understandable. I still do. but then i bought a touchscreen laptop and am using it now. I absolutely love it as well. That's understandable, as that is what it was designed for. Still will not use it in a desktop environment though. That's understandable. Same here! Edited March 15, 2014 by SweX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweX 871 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Hello Goldenyears, Yes ESET software NOD32/ESS will continue to work under XP as they do today last I heard. Though, if your computer can run Win7 then I would really consider to upgrade. In my case it's not worth it at all so I will buy a new computer instead of upgrading the OS. But it won't run Win8/8.1 I can promise you that. I believe there are softwares out there an XP user can run to try to stop an attack, Google around and you shall find some answers. But a permanent OS fix by MS is still much better and safer. If ESET alone will be enough without the OS patches after April 8. IMO the answer is No. I think you know the golden rules Keep your OS up to date. Keep your software, browsers, etc etc up to date.... But following the rule "keep the OS "up to date" after April 8 is more of an mission impossible. I wonder how many XP users that would show up on an official XP funeral if MS would have one. I'd be there! I loved my XP machine, but it died . 7 is OK (I have adapted), but I have heard too many 8 horror stories . So Swex-what will you choose? Inquiring minds want to know ! Alright, OSX is an OS I like so that's decided, but i've yet to decide exactly when, and wich Mac model to buy, but we'll see over the coming months. It all kind of depends on Apple too. Yes if MS would just have continued with the Sec Patches, I wouldn't have any problem staying with XP for a while longer. Edited March 13, 2014 by SweX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenyears 0 Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Thanks for the discussion. I have a proposed solution to enable me to continue using Win XP desktop and be protected (I think). It's simple... stop using my Win XP machine for internet access. Upgrade my laptop to Win 7 or Win 8 for internet access. Continue running ESET Smart Security on both machines. But I wonder if it will also be necessary to take the Win XP machine off my wireless home network in order to be protected against security threats from the internet. I'd still like to be able to share peripherals and move files between the desktop and the laptop. Surely there must be some setting that isolates the Win XP machine from internet access through the laptop and the wireless network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi 549 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 If you discontinue use of your browser, email, and usb storage devices on your XP machine, you most likely won't have anything to worry about as far as malware and exploits. You can still share files back and forth on your XP machine and windows 7 machine, but any trojans or exploits that target network shares or similar will still be able to jump to your XP machine, however having ESET installed on both should provide that added protection required to continue with your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweX 871 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) but any trojans or exploits that target network shares or similar will still be able to jump to your XP machine, however having ESET installed on both should provide that added protection required to continue with your idea. Yep I think so too. Today I updated XP via WU, it finished a bit faster than usual as their was no .NET updates this time. Compared to last month when there was (3) .NET updates it was terribly slow. And soon it's all over Edited March 13, 2014 by SweX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi 549 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) There was a major internet explorer vulnerability/exploit patched on this weeks patch Tuesday ! Edited March 27, 2014 by Arakasi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenyears 0 Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Thanks for the replies. Arakasi, please elaborate on the following remark: "If you discontinue use of your browser, email, and usb storage devices on your XP machine..." All my data is on USB hard disks. I have two... one for primary data and the other is a backup copy which I make frequently, When I travel with my laptop I take the backup copy and if I make changes or additions to it, those I put on a USB flash drive for carefully writing back to the primary data drive. In other words, under my plan for going off the internet with my XP machine, the primary USB data drive would be isolated. So what about posting back to it any changes I may have made to the backup drive while connected to the laptop and the internet? Can you elaborate on the risks of contamination of the Win XP machine through use of USB storage disks as I have described? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy456 12 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) I'm in no hurry to switch to win7, as someone who plays online games , most of which as DX9 games BTW, but the main problem for me is that micro cr*p in it's infinite wisdom decided to omit hardware sound acceleration from win7 Some onboard sound card vendors have produced software that is supposed to mimics this, but realtek's solution doesn't work very well, game sounds are not restored , The best solution would be to buy a PCI sound card that has it's own cpu so does it's own hardware acceleration for game sounds ect , But my CPU is just under the min requirements for the sound card i looked at , yes i could buy a faster cpu, but why should i spend money on what is a 7 yr old PC Just so i can run windows 7 and hear all the in game sounds properly ? screw microsoft on this one , i'm sticking with xp for now, as for it suddenly becoming more vulnerable, i find that hard to believe, that is the microsoft corporate brainwashing , as long as you have a decent security suite installed and 3rd party browsers like firefox and opera continue to support win xp and you use those instead of IE then where's this extra where all doomed security risk? Edited March 22, 2014 by tommy456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOR 4 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Hi SweX and all of ESET Forum.. My desktop is XP I will have to soon retire this senior computer of 13 years, and to comment on Windows8.1. I got a ASUS laptop as a gift and it has 8.1 and I like the computer, but I am not happy with 8.1, but it must have some redeeming qualities. (looking for those qualities) If I get another laptop, It will be getting Windows 7. Just wanted to put my 2 cents into the conversation. KOR- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi 549 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Thanks KOR for your feedback. I can only suggest that if you are unhappy with windows 8 due to the major changes, i recommend installing Classic Shell from this site: hxxp://www.classicshell.net/ It does help a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenyears 0 Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Thanks for the replies. I have ordered my new Win 8.1 laptop for connecting to the outside world while doing my "work" on my isolated Win XP desktop. I'll let you know how it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution SweX 871 Posted March 26, 2014 Solution Share Posted March 26, 2014 BY ARYEH GORETSKY Time to Move On From Windows XP The world today is a much different place than it was in 2001 when Microsoft released Windows XP. With Windows XP Microsoft combined features to handle games and multimedia for consumers, and to provide stability and reliability for businesses. This strategy made for a wildly popular operating system. Now, thirteen years later, Windows XP comes to an end of sorts on April 8, 2014. After this, Microsoft will cease providing security updates or support for this venerable operating system. hxxp://www.welivesecurity.com/2014/03/25/time-to-move-on-from-windows-xp/ Great post AG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Moderators Aryeh Goretsky 378 Posted March 26, 2014 ESET Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2014 Hello, Thank you. There's a lot more coming, too. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi 549 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) Hello, Thank you. There's a lot more coming, too. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Awesome, very much look forwarded to reading. Thank you for your work and willing to share your knowledge to everyone. Edited March 26, 2014 by Arakasi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweX 871 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Hello, Thank you. There's a lot more coming, too. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky You are very welcome Aryeh. Sounds great, looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakasi 549 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Thanks for the replies. Arakasi, please elaborate on the following remark: "If you discontinue use of your browser, email, and usb storage devices on your XP machine..." All my data is on USB hard disks. I have two... one for primary data and the other is a backup copy which I make frequently, When I travel with my laptop I take the backup copy and if I make changes or additions to it, those I put on a USB flash drive for carefully writing back to the primary data drive. In other words, under my plan for going off the internet with my XP machine, the primary USB data drive would be isolated. So what about posting back to it any changes I may have made to the backup drive while connected to the laptop and the internet? Can you elaborate on the risks of contamination of the Win XP machine through use of USB storage disks as I have described? I did not notice this question until now. My apologies Goldenyears. The statement i made about usb storage devices, is simply because you can carry threats to and from on usb media. Having a good security product that scans USB media can help you with still accessing your data. I recommend having ESET installed to scan your usb media, however in the off chance, you do not have ESET, or you do not have the budget to purchase software, then i recommend MCshield for USB. It is completely free, and would be a secondary choice to ESET for usb media. MCShield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenyears 0 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Thanks, I do have a multiple licenses for ESET and will continue to use it on my computers. Compared to the competing products I've tried in the past (guess which ones), ESET is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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