novice 20 Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, TomFace said: 80% or so of the A/V test mean nothing in the real world And we have to believe you , .....why? What is the "Face" value of such statement???? 33 minutes ago, TomFace said: If so you are not welcome here Welcome or not, facts are facts! When you have Avast! (free) , Avira (free) , Bitdefender (free) ,MSE (free) with a higher detection rate than ESET, one may ask why do we have to pay , when the free alternatives offer better protection???? Edited August 17, 2017 by MSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomFace 539 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) Why should I be believed? Don't really care if you do or don't. But I'm not selling anything (unlike you) including false hopes under questionable circumstances. BS artists are a dime a dozen. I usually do not waste my time withy those fools. What you do not address speaks volumes as to your intent, child. Edited August 17, 2017 by TomFace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders BALTAGY 32 Posted August 17, 2017 ESET Insiders Share Posted August 17, 2017 2 hours ago, MSE said: Leaving MSE alone, from Feb to June ,ESET is on 16th place from 21, with 7 antiviruses having 100% detection. 100% detection ?!!!!!! if these tests give a 100% detection results then that's a reason why you ignore them, there's no 100% detection Another reason: when they say bitdefender is a 100% performance while i tried it many times and every time it kills my pc performance!! 7 minutes ago, MSE said: And we have to believe you , .....why? What is the "Face" value of such statement???? Welcome or not, facts are facts! When you have Avast! (free) , Avira (free) , Bitdefender (free) ,MSE (free) with a higher detection rate than ESET, one may ask why do we have to pay , when the free alternatives offer better protection???? Are you really saying Avira or Avast better than ESET ? did you try them your self or you just read these fake tests and believe them blindly If you see all products are better than ESET let me ask you, why are you here ? why you didn't just choose the better products ? If you see all products are better just choose one and use it and have fun believing the tests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomFace 539 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BALTAGY said: 100% detection ?!!!!!! if these tests give a 100% detection results then that's a reason why you ignore them, there's no 100% detection Another reason: when they say bitdefender is a 100% performance while i tried it many times and every time it kills my pc performance!! Are you really saying Avira or Avast better than ESET ? did you try them your self or you just read these fake tests and believe them blindly If you see all products are better than ESET let me ask you, why are you here ? why you didn't just choose the better products ? If you see all products are better just choose one and use it and have fun believing the tests Leave him alone BALTAGY...this being is just doing what s/he knows best...TROLLING. Don't waste your time on it's worthless message. It will be gone soon enough on it's own. A bad workman blames his tools Edited August 17, 2017 by TomFace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xDEADBEEF 43 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 9 hours ago, Marcos said: Which one(s)? I'm eager to check them closer. Also are you talking about executables? Because the situation is a bit different if, for instance, a script malware (downloader) is not detected but the payload is so in the end the computer doesn't get infected. SHA256: 8de12700ad1cb6b9573bd0bf4cfa8d17c6370bec30576262ced4dd3916f4c9ab is this malicious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,746 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, 0xDEADBEEF said: SHA256: 8de12700ad1cb6b9573bd0bf4cfa8d17c6370bec30576262ced4dd3916f4c9ab is this malicious? This is an interesting one. Payload Security analysis here: https://www.hybrid-analysis.com/sample/8de12700ad1cb6b9573bd0bf4cfa8d17c6370bec30576262ced4dd3916f4c9ab?environmentId=100 Appears only heuristic/behavior/AI based engines are detecting it. And confidence is not high; Cloudstrike gives it a 80%. If indeed malware present, appears to be .Net based. You would have to run it in the Cuckoo sandbox and actually see what it is doing. My best guess is it is benign but performs highly suspect activities. This is of most interest: Quote Opens the Kernel Security Device Driver (KsecDD) of Windows details "<Input Sample>" opened "\Device\KsecDD" source API Call relevance 10/10 Edited August 17, 2017 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xDEADBEEF 43 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, itman said: My best guess is it is benign but performs highly suspect activities. Yes, I had my own cuckoo run this sample and was not sure about this particular one after looking at the report. I tend to feel that it is an FP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persian-boy 22 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, MSE said: And we have to believe you , .....why? What is the "Face" value of such statement???? Welcome or not, facts are facts! When you have Avast! (free) , Avira (free) , Bitdefender (free) ,MSE (free) with a higher detection rate than ESET, one may ask why do we have to pay , when the free alternatives offer better protection???? 4 Hello mate, I will tell you why Because the Eset has a strong firewall(with IDS)when others don't. Because the ESET has memory protection when the free or even paid version of Avast don't.https://www.eset.com/int/about/technology/ You can't find any of them on the avast or Avira products... Eset has HIPS when those Avs don't. Eset has clean GUI when others don't! just take a look at Avast forum and you will find bugs, problems, blue screens,etc.. Oh and about BD( free) it's not even an av they don't care about the free version of BD. av test companies show you what they want! they don't tell you that Avast can't protect your MEMORY from memory attack! The cloud in the free version OF AVIRA isn't the same as the paid version! Btw these av test companies only test the Avs on default settings. Eset is one of those I like because you can dig into the settings especially the hips settings and control and monitor everything when others can't do that for you. cuz av test said Avast is the best then we should believe it?you need to read the Testing Methodology on their website then you will understand what that 100% score means. I'm sorry for my bad English GL. Edited August 17, 2017 by persian-boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Marcos 5,259 Posted August 17, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 17, 2017 Since the discussion has gone off-topic, we'll draw this topic to a close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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