Most Valued Members peteyt 393 Posted November 16, 2017 Most Valued Members Share Posted November 16, 2017 I've heard some strange ideas in the past but this one certainly caught my attention. Facebook is apparently planning to test a new idea in Australia in an attempt to help prevent revenge porn,The idea is simple - the victim or even a possible future victim sends their nude photos, and facebook then turns those photos into a hash. The idea is that if someone tries to upload that picture on facebook, e.g. an ex, the picture will be matched with the hash and so in turn blocked. Apparently the images will be kept for a while, although blurred. This technology isn't new, and is actually used to help stop the spreading of images of sexualy abused children. When you look at it in detail, past the ridiculousness sounding headline, it actually could sound clever to some. However I think this is a massive mistake. One of the most important things I have learned from security, is nothing is ever 100 percent safe. I trust and always recommend Eset for example, but software is just that, software. It is prone to bugs and mistakes, which become even riskier when the human element is added. What would happen if a flaw was discovered allowing the images to be intercepted during transmission? While what I have read from different articles seems to suggest it would be automated, could say a Facebook employer gain access to these images? For me the issue is people put too much trust into technologies. For example I've had many mac users tell me how dangerous windows is, and when they used it how many viruses they had. I can't remember when the last time I was infected was. I'm no expert, but I know not to open suspicious emails, click links, open attachments etc. I stick to safe sites, regularly back my stuff up and so on. Relying on these technologies rather than teaching yourself how to be safe just leads to a false sense of security. What do people think of Facebook's new idea? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/07/facebook-revenge-porn-nude-photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Valued Members SCR 195 Posted November 16, 2017 Most Valued Members Share Posted November 16, 2017 I don't think Facebook can be trusted with much of anything let alone nude pictures. A permanent solution would be to keep your clothes on when pictures are being taken. Yeah I know, to simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Moderators foneil 342 Posted November 16, 2017 ESET Moderators Share Posted November 16, 2017 I can only imagine the scam sites/services that will come from this: Send your photos to facebo0k.com/stoprevengeporn to block future uploads -- going to some shady person's personal collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Valued Members SCR 195 Posted November 16, 2017 Most Valued Members Share Posted November 16, 2017 58 minutes ago, foneil said: I can only imagine the scam sites/services that will come from this: Send your photos to facebo0k.com/stoprevengeporn to block future uploads -- going to some shady person's personal collection. For all we know it's already a scam. Just who will be processing the photos and what protection is there from the reviewer? We won't even discuss the possibility of a breach. Obviously I have always had very little trust in Facebook and even less now considering recent events. Seems like a really bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomFace 539 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Just another reason I do not need help from social media to get in trouble. I can do fine ALL BY MYSELF. Plain and simple...just don't use social media...and as SCR said, keep your clothes on (and stop being stupid). Is it that complicated? Edited November 16, 2017 by TomFace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Valued Members cyberhash 188 Posted November 17, 2017 Most Valued Members Share Posted November 17, 2017 In theory the idea is actually quite good i think, if it's purely automated and no Facebook employee's can get access to them. Facebook has been using image recognition(via alt text) for over 2 years from what i have observed personally and it's actually highly accurate. Some might say , use Photoshop and swap faces and keep the same body with a different head. I don't think this will work as like i said the image recognition Facebook is using is accurate beyond belief. Everybody does something that they regret in life and young people are more likely to send or allow pictures of their bits to be taken. Then if the said pictures are circulated around friends then the effects can be life changing. I'm not a big lover of Facebook to be honest but at least they are trying to do something good, while they secretly suck the info out of your other open browser tabs for "marketing purposes ". Sadly there are alternative means for sending pictures to people... using Picture messages, Whatsapp, Snapchat, Skype and hundreds more. At least Facebook is making an effort in this area and no doubt others will follow suit and offer a similar service. Being a big business in the online world is to be innovative or disappear (do or die). Plus these companies are now being tasked with being more responsible and accountable with the data that they hold. Overall a good idea, but sadly not adopted widely across the board to be of any substantial means of distribution of pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Valued Members peteyt 393 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Most Valued Members Share Posted November 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, cyberhash said: In theory the idea is actually quite good i think, if it's purely automated and no Facebook employee's can get access to them. Facebook has been using image recognition(via alt text) for over 2 years from what i have observed personally and it's actually highly accurate. Some might say , use Photoshop and swap faces and keep the same body with a different head. I don't think this will work as like i said the image recognition Facebook is using is accurate beyond belief. Everybody does something that they regret in life and young people are more likely to send or allow pictures of their bits to be taken. Then if the said pictures are circulated around friends then the effects can be life changing. I'm not a big lover of Facebook to be honest but at least they are trying to do something good, while they secretly suck the info out of your other open browser tabs for "marketing purposes ". Sadly there are alternative means for sending pictures to people... using Picture messages, Whatsapp, Snapchat, Skype and hundreds more. At least Facebook is making an effort in this area and no doubt others will follow suit and offer a similar service. Being a big business in the online world is to be innovative or disappear (do or die). Plus these companies are now being tasked with being more responsible and accountable with the data that they hold. Overall a good idea, but sadly not adopted widely across the board to be of any substantial means of distribution of pictures. The problem i have is that even if it is automated if could at some point be abused and used for the thing it is trying to prevent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Valued Members cyberhash 188 Posted November 17, 2017 Most Valued Members Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, peteyt said: The problem i have is that even if it is automated if could at some point be abused and used for the thing it is trying to prevent Of course there is always the chance of something being circumvented. But equally people said the same thing about online banking when it first went online. Take away phishing/paypal scams and other forms of scamming , banks have never had their accounts emptied. The people employed by corporations are at the top of their field and spend more time trying to hack, reverse engineer or break something than they do actually coding the features itself. Plus this is probably something they have been working on in the background for years. I wont ever need the feature that Facebook is offering but equally neither will 99.99% of their user base, just a few people that made a bad choice at a point in time. If your a student at school and have made mistake, then surely uploading an image to Facebook where its anonymized automatically is better than 1000 students at the same school being able to share the picture around the school/town/world. I really do see it as a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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