Administrators Marcos 4,601 Posted July 9, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mwh65 said: To confirm are you referring to the KB5004945 patch released by Microsoft? Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmsoar 1 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just a piece of additional information: I'm running version 14.1.20.0 of "Eset Internet Security" I'll add to the reports. After updating windows with KB5004945 my system will run from 30 seconds to 3-4 minutes. Trying to get anything done will result in a bug check "System Thread exception not handled" . This includes trying "System Restore" from within windows. It's necessary to do it from the bluescreen troubleshooting window. The address is listed as eamonm.sys +6200 as previously reported Deleting the update via system restore removes the problem. Re-installing the update caused the BSOD to repeat with the same eamonm.sys+6200 address. Removing the update again restores normal behavior. I would submit to others that rebuilding the PC is not required unless there are no system restore points available. I've paused updates until this issue is resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,508 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, mmsoar said: Just a piece of additional information: I'm running version 14.1.20.0 of "Eset Internet Security" I would upgrade to the latest EIS ver. which is 14.2.19 and see if that resolves the issue. As previously posted, I am running this version and have no Eset related issues after applying KB5004945 on my Win 10 x(64) 21H1 device. Edited July 10, 2021 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigctm 0 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, itman said: I would upgrade to the latest EIS ver. which is 14.2.19 and see if that resolves the issue. As previously posted, I am running this version and have no Eset related issues after applying KB5004945 on my Win 10 x(64) 21H1 device. I am on version 14.2.19 and had the issue and had to uninstall KB5004945. Are you using BIOS or UEFI? Might be secure boot related...who knows at this point...I turned off windows updates in the meantime. Hopefully there will be a solution soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,508 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Bigctm said: Are you using BIOS or UEFI? My Gigabyte motherboard falls into the "vintage" category so its BIOS based. This by itself would rule out any Secure Boot use. I do have all HV options enabled; core isolation and memory integrity. I don't think the issue is UEFI based but perhaps something to do with TPM interface modification perhaps? Edited July 10, 2021 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Marcos 4,601 Posted July 12, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 12, 2021 Are all machines where BSOD occurs relatively new with USB3.x support? Do you use a USB-C cable to connect USB devices? So far it looks like a USB3 component writing to a memory area that was already freed by the component and is already allocated by ESET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,508 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Marcos said: Are all machines where BSOD occurs relatively new with USB3.x support? My motherboard dates to 2010. So, USB 3.0 capability is not relatively new feature. I am also having no issues but do not have any USB 3.0 devices connected presently. Also, I am assuming that a USB 3.0 device would have to be connected via a USB 3.0 cable at system startup time to be applicable. Edited July 12, 2021 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cousin Vinny 6 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 This is the hardware environment of the machine I was having trouble with (no USB 3.x devices): Audio inputs and outputs Remote Audio Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 12/6/2019 Audio inputs and outputs Speakers/Headphones (Realtek Audio) Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 12/6/2019 Batteries HID UPS Battery Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Computer ACPI x64-based PC (Standard computers) 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Disk drives KXG60ZNV256G NVMe TOSHIBA 256GB (Standard disk drives) 10.0.19041.789 6/21/2006 Display adapters Intel UHD Graphics 630 Intel Corporation 27.20.100.8935 10/28/2020 DVD/CD-ROM drives HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GU90N (Standard CD-ROM drives) 10.0.19041.1023 6/21/2006 Firmware System Firmware Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Human Interface Devices American Power Conversion USB UPS American Power Conversion 10.0.19041.868 6/21/2006 Human Interface Devices HID-compliant consumer control device Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Human Interface Devices HID-compliant system controller (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.868 6/21/2006 Human Interface Devices USB Input Device (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.868 6/21/2006 Human Interface Devices USB Input Device (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.868 6/21/2006 Human Interface Devices USB Input Device (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.868 6/21/2006 Imaging devices Brother DCP-7065DN Brother 1.1.19.19 4/4/2013 Imaging devices ScanSnap S1300i FUJITSU 2.0.3.1 1/31/2014 Keyboards HID Keyboard Device (Standard keyboards) 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Mice and other pointing devices HID-compliant mouse Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Monitors Generic PnP Monitor (Standard monitor types) 10.0.19041.488 6/21/2006 Monitors Generic PnP Monitor (Standard monitor types) 10.0.19041.488 6/21/2006 Network adapters Intel Ethernet Connection (7) I219-LM Intel 12.18.8.9 1/24/2019 Network adapters WAN Miniport (IKEv2) Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Network adapters WAN Miniport (IP) Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Network adapters WAN Miniport (IPv6) Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Network adapters WAN Miniport (L2TP) Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Network adapters WAN Miniport (Network Monitor) Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Network adapters WAN Miniport (PPPOE) Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Network adapters WAN Miniport (PPTP) Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Network adapters WAN Miniport (SSTP) Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Ports (COM & LPT) Communications Port (COM1) (Standard port types) 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Ports (COM & LPT) Intel Active Management Technology - SOL (COM3) Intel 2042.0.13.0 10/14/2020 Print queues ABS PDF Driver v400 AMYUNI Technologies 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Print queues Adobe PDF Adobe 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Print queues Brother DCP-7065DN Printer Brother 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Print queues Fax Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Print queues Microsoft Print to PDF Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Print queues Microsoft XPS Document Writer Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Print queues OneNote Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Print queues OneNote Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Print queues Root Print Queue Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Print queues Send To OneNote 2016 Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Printers Brother DCP-7065DN Printer Brother 1.10.0.0 4/5/2013 Processors Intel Core i5-8600 CPU @ 3.10GHz Processors Intel Core i5-8600 CPU @ 3.10GHz Processors Intel Core i5-8600 CPU @ 3.10GHz Processors Intel Core i5-8600 CPU @ 3.10GHz Processors Intel Core i5-8600 CPU @ 3.10GHz Processors Intel Core i5-8600 CPU @ 3.10GHz Security devices Trusted Platform Module 2.0 (Standard) 10.0.19041.746 6/21/2006 Software components Intel Graphics Command Center Intel Corporation 27.20.100.8935 10/28/2020 Software components Intel Graphics Control Panel Intel Corporation 27.20.100.8935 10/28/2020 Software components Intel Optane Memory and Storage Management Component Intel Corporation 18.0.0.1 3/2/2020 Software components Intel Optane Pinning Shell Extensions Intel Corporation 18.0.1.1138 8/3/2020 Software components Intel Optane Pinning Shell Extensions Intel Corporation 18.0.1.1138 8/3/2020 Software components Realtek Asio Component Realtek 1.0.0.4 6/19/2017 Software components Realtek Audio Effects Component Realtek 11.0.6000.686 5/21/2019 Software components Realtek Audio Universal Service Realtek 1.0.0.172 5/20/2019 Software components Waves Audio Effects Component Waves 3.2.0.81 11/29/2018 Software devices Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Software devices Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Software devices Microsoft RRAS Root Enumerator Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 Sound, video and game controllers Intel Display Audio Intel Corporation 10.27.0.9 2/25/2020 Sound, video and game controllers Realtek Audio Microsoft 6.0.8710.1 5/22/2019 Storage controllers Intel Chipset SATA/PCIe RST Premium Controller Intel Corporation 18.30.1.1138 8/3/2020 Storage controllers Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller Microsoft 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices ACPI Fan (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices ACPI Fan (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices ACPI Fan (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices ACPI Fan (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices ACPI Fan (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices ACPI Fixed Feature Button (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices ACPI Power Button (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices ACPI Processor Aggregator (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices ACPI Thermal Zone (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices Charge Arbitration Driver (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Composite Bus Enumerator Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices High Definition Audio Controller Microsoft 10.0.19041.1081 6/8/2021 System devices High precision event timer (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices Intel 300 Series Chipset Family LPC Controller (Q370) - A306 INTEL 10.1.16.3 7/18/1968 System devices Intel Gaussian Mixture Model - 1911 INTEL 10.1.7.2 7/18/1968 System devices Intel Host Bridge/DRAM Registers - 3EC2 INTEL 10.1.14.3 7/18/1968 System devices Intel Management Engine Interface Intel 2102.100.0.1044 1/3/2021 System devices Intel PCI Express Root Port #4 - A33B INTEL 10.1.16.3 7/18/1968 System devices Intel PCI Express Root Port #9 - A330 INTEL 10.1.16.3 7/18/1968 System devices Intel Power Engine Plug-in Intel Corporation 10.0.19041.662 6/21/2006 System devices Intel Serial IO GPIO Host Controller - INT3450 Intel Corporation 30.100.1816.3 4/17/2018 System devices Intel Serial IO I2C Host Controller - A368 Intel Corporation 30.100.1929.1 7/15/2019 System devices Intel SMBus - A323 INTEL 10.1.16.3 7/18/1968 System devices Intel SPI (flash) Controller - A324 INTEL 10.1.16.3 7/18/1968 System devices Intel Thermal Subsystem - A379 INTEL 10.1.16.3 7/18/1968 System devices Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System Microsoft 10.0.19041.964 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft Hyper-V Virtualization Infrastructure Driver Microsoft 10.0.19041.1052 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft System Management BIOS Driver (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft UEFI-Compliant System Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft Virtual Drive Enumerator Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft Windows Management Interface for ACPI Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft Windows Management Interface for ACPI Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft Windows Management Interface for ACPI Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft Windows Management Interface for ACPI Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft Windows Management Interface for ACPI Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft Windows Management Interface for ACPI Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Microsoft Windows Management Interface for ACPI Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices NDIS Virtual Network Adapter Enumerator Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Numeric data processor (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices PCI Express Root Complex (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.964 6/21/2006 System devices PCI standard RAM Controller (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices PCI-to-PCI Bridge (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.964 6/21/2006 System devices Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1 12/6/2019 System devices Programmable interrupt controller (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices Remote Desktop Camera Bus Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Remote Desktop Device Redirector Bus Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices Remote Desktop USB Hub (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1023 6/21/2006 System devices System CMOS/real time clock (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices System timer (Standard system devices) 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 System devices UMBus Enumerator Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices UMBus Enumerator Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices UMBus Enumerator Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 System devices UMBus Root Bus Enumerator Microsoft 10.0.19041.1 6/21/2006 UCMCLIENT Cypress UCM Client Peripheral Driver Cypress Semiconductor Corporation 1.2.1.20 11/28/2017 Universal Serial Bus controllers Intel USB 3.1 eXtensible Host Controller - 1.10 (Microsoft) Generic USB xHCI Host Controller 10.0.19041.1081 6/7/2021 Universal Serial Bus controllers USB Composite Device (Standard USB Host Controller) 10.0.19041.488 6/21/2006 Universal Serial Bus controllers USB Composite Device (Standard USB Host Controller) 10.0.19041.488 6/21/2006 Universal Serial Bus controllers USB Printing Support Microsoft 10.0.19041.1081 6/21/2006 Universal Serial Bus controllers USB Root Hub (USB 3.0) (Standard USB HUBs) 10.0.19041.964 4/22/2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,508 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) Current USB 3 standards: Quote USB 3.0 / USB 3.1 (Gen 1) In 2008 the USB 3.0 standard was introduced, with which the speed of data transmission could be increased to 5 Gbit / s. USB 3.1 (Gen 2) The USB 3.1 upgrade was launched in 2013, which made higher data transfer speeds possible. Up to 10 Gbit / s were now possible. USB 3.2 USB 3.2 was introduced in 2017 and the speed could be doubled to up to 20 Gbit / s. USB type C plugs are required, which then transmit 10 Gbit / s in each direction in the multi-lane method over two pairs of wires. https://www.reichelt.com/magazin/en/usb-3-0-3-1-3-2-and-4-0/ Edited July 12, 2021 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,508 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Here's the deal on the USB 3 angle. See below screen shot. Windows did update my driver for it in early June. It appears to have arrived as part of June cumulative update which patched the initial PrintNightmare vulnerabilities. Now my printer is USB 2.0 connected. So USB 3.0 issue in this regard is N/A for me. I also would have never been vulnerable to the remote printer connection vulnerabilities. The Win 10 KB5004945 patch did not update USB 3.0 drivers it appears. Therefore, I can't see how USB 3.0 is causing these Eset sourced blue screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,508 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) Ah ..........., this might be USB 3 related after all. I had to jog my memory a bit. It's a bit complicated. To begin, my "vintage" Gigabyte motherboard does not natively support USB 3. They added a NEC chip to do so. Also whatever USB 3 controller Gigabyte supplied, it was not the Renensas one shown in my screen shot. Win 10 on installation replaced the original controller with the Renensas one. As such, Microsoft is now the provider for driver updates to it. It is possible that Microsoft in their haste to push out the KB5004945 and related patches did not do extensive compatibility tests on USB 3 controller drivers other than their own supported ones in relation to AV interfacing with the controller? There is also an easy way to test this USB 3 source theory. Any Eset installed device BSOD because of KB5004945 can temporarily disable their USB 3 controller via Device Manager. Reinstall the KB5004945 or related patch. If BSOD stops, this proves that the USB 3 controller driver is the source. Edited July 12, 2021 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Marcos 4,601 Posted July 13, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 13, 2021 If you can reproduce the BSOD please let us know and we will provide you with a batch file that will enable a special pool that will help us locate the troubling driver overwriting or corrupting memory allocated by ESET which results in BSOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,508 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just a FYI here. The July cumulative updates are rolling out and a number of Win drivers were updated. The one that caught my eye was usbprint.sys which is the USB printer driver. So it is possible this Eset BSOD issue might be resolved after applying this update. SeriousHoax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Moderators Aryeh Goretsky 353 Posted July 14, 2021 ESET Moderators Share Posted July 14, 2021 Hello, NEC Electronics spun off Renesas Electronics in 2002. As a result, drivers dated after that time for NEC hardware such as USB controllers may show up as having device drivers written by Renesas. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Marcos 4,601 Posted July 15, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2021 Should anybody still having issues with BSOD, please make sure to install the Windows update KB5004237 released on July 13 and let us know if it resolves the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmsoar 1 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Updated last night to KB5004237. So far the system appears stable. At least the MTBF is > 12 hours. So, whatever the changes are they appear to have largely resolved the rapid bug check issues. If the problems re-occurs I'll re-post, but for now, thankfully, I'll retire into the background. Peter Randziak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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