ESET Insiders SM03 9 Posted November 9, 2020 ESET Insiders Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) Hi, Am getting this desktop notification everytime I logged or boot into my PC. ' Initialization of Windows Security Center Handeler Failed' I tried to get further info from the LOG file but there is no other deatils mentioned. I am using the latest EIS v14.0.22.0 with Windows 10 Pro v20H2 19042.630 One thing I must inform, I removed the Windows Security Center (Windows Defender) from the ISO that I install (because I use ESET for security, not rely on Windows Defender Security), so is that could be the reason for this error? If yes, then requesting the devs to fix this Here is the screenshot of my Windows Settings page Edited November 9, 2020 by SM03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,629 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, SM03 said: One thing I must inform, I removed the Windows Security Center (Windows Defender) from the ISO that I install (because I use ESET for security, not rely on Windows Defender Security), so is that could be the reason for this error? If you actually removed Windows/Microsoft Security Center, that is the reason for the alert. It is a critical component of the Win 10 OS and needs to be installed and be functional. It not only controls Windows/Microsoft Defender and firewall use or non-use when a third party anti-virus solution is installed, but many other critical internal security components such as ; Win account, app & brower (exploit), and device security protection. It also monitors device performance and health status. Edited November 9, 2020 by itman JozefG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders SM03 9 Posted November 9, 2020 Author ESET Insiders Share Posted November 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, itman said: If you actually removed Windows/Microsoft Security Center, that is the reason for the alert. It is a critical component of the Win 10 OS and needs to be installed and be functional. It not only controls Windows/Microsoft Defender and firewall use or non-use when a third party anti-virus solution is installed, but many other critical internal security components such as ; Win account, app & brower (exploit), and device security protection. It also monitors device performance and health status. Is there any way to hide/defer this notification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,629 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Reinstall\repair Win 10 20H2 to get Microsoft Security Center fully functional. If your desire is to fully disable Microsoft Defender, it appears this solution: https://www.sordum.org/9480/defender-control-v1-6/ still works for Win 2004 and 20H2. Note it is not recommended to permanently uninstall Defender since it serves as a back up AV real-time solution in case Eset's real-time protection was disabled somehow or malfunctioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Staff JozefG 6 Posted November 9, 2020 ESET Staff Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, SM03 said: Is there any way to hide/defer this notification? 3 hours ago, SM03 said: If yes, then requesting the devs to fix this TLDR; No. We are required by Microsoft to communicate with WSC in order to be an antimalware provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders SM03 9 Posted November 9, 2020 Author ESET Insiders Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, itman said: Reinstall\repair Win 10 20H2 to get Microsoft Security Center fully functional. If your desire is to fully disable Microsoft Defender, it appears this solution: https://www.sordum.org/9480/defender-control-v1-6/ still works for Win 2004 and 20H2. Note it is not recommended to permanently uninstall Defender since it serves as a back up AV real-time solution in case Eset's real-time protection was disabled somehow or malfunctioned. I don't use any 3rd party apps to disable it from Windows, rather, I make my own customised Windiws ISO by removing many bloats alongwith the Windows Defender & tweaking many things (mostly delete useless things that I don't use & add updates) then install that. & about repair, I won't do that as I don't see any point of doing so, but somethimes, I've noticed that, after a CU, Windows defender usualy shows up (not in Windows Settings section, but if you search in START, it's there) Edited November 9, 2020 by SM03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders SM03 9 Posted November 9, 2020 Author ESET Insiders Share Posted November 9, 2020 46 minutes ago, JozefG said: TLDR; No. We are required by Microsoft to communicate with WSC in order to be an antimalware provider. hmm, while I understand the dependencies, still, IMO, ESET should have a user prefered notification options to turn off this (such) kind of notificaions anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Valued Members shocked 60 Posted November 9, 2020 Most Valued Members Share Posted November 9, 2020 imo that notification is a crucial part of the successful operation of the program and the OS. a user could be alerted that something in the OS isn't working right and then take action. it he could disable it, even by mistake, then the entire system could be at huge risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Valued Members peteyt 387 Posted November 9, 2020 Most Valued Members Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, SM03 said: hmm, while I understand the dependencies, still, IMO, ESET should have a user prefered notification options to turn off this (such) kind of notificaions anyway. I get not wanting to have some of windows extras, a lot have issues with windows 10 privacy wise. However eset and windows security Centre work together and I belive windows security centre like itman mentioned provides other stuff rather than just windows defender. Removing the full security centre could put your computer at risk and it is definitely not recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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