New_Style_xd 69 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Good afternoon, 1 - Why on the VB100 website does ESET no longer have a certificate since August 24, 2020? 2 - I've always liked using ESET's products, but in some tests by AV-TEST and AV-COMPARATIVES our security solution is coming out below other free antivirus how can it be? What is happening with our solution is losing market, our security product is no longer recognized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,659 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Actually, I wondered the same thing. However, I believe VB certifications are effective for one year. As such, the current certification hasn't expired yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Style_xd 69 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 33 minutes ago, itman said: Actually, I wondered the same thing. However, I believe VB certifications are effective for one year. As such, the current certification hasn't expired yet. There is no explanation, because before ESET was not unrecognized for more than 1 year, each year it was renewed. How do you explain to me that in the AV-COMPARATIVES and AV-TEST tests, our product is losing out to free antivirus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,659 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, New_Style_xd said: How do you explain to me that in the AV-COMPARATIVES and AV-TEST tests, our product is losing out to free antivirus? Add to this group, the last MRG Effitas 360 test: https://www.mrg-effitas.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/MRG_Effitas_360_2021Q1.pdf . Eset Endpoint failed to get certified for the 'In the Wild 360 / Full Spectrum' portion of the test. A first on this test series, I believe. Edited August 17, 2021 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders NewbyUser 72 Posted August 17, 2021 ESET Insiders Share Posted August 17, 2021 https://www.eset.com/int/about/newsroom/press-releases/company/after-22-years-of-outstanding-results-eset-discontinues-participation-in-vb100-and-vbspam-testing/ itman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Style_xd 69 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, NewbyUser said: https://www.eset.com/int/about/newsroom/press-releases/company/after-22-years-of-outstanding-results-eset-discontinues-participation-in-vb100-and-vbspam-testing/ NewbyUser The link you sent I was reading ended up understanding about ESET leaving the tests. Now what I don't understand why in the tests of AV-COMPARATIVES and AV-TEST ESET not getting High grades? is losing out to FREE Products. why is that? Edited August 17, 2021 by New_Style_xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders NewbyUser 72 Posted August 17, 2021 ESET Insiders Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) Everyone gets hung up on "perfection". There a multitude of factors that go into antivirus/antimalware testing and Eset typically scores in the 97-99% range which is excellent in my opinion. The most important factor is what works best on YOUR system. While I do look over some AV test sites they don't govern why I use Eset. It's the best performing AV on my system and has been for a long time, way back to when "Advance Heuristics" was the big thing. In that regard Eset has been "First" to implement a number of things along the way. If you're not comfortable using it, then don't use it. https://www.welivesecurity.com/2017/06/08/testing-marketing-rummaging-fud-banks/ https://www.welivesecurity.com/2017/10/13/simulation-dissimulation-exasperation/ https://www.welivesecurity.com/2015/08/14/signatures-product-testing-lingering-death-av/ Edited August 17, 2021 by NewbyUser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders NewbyUser 72 Posted August 17, 2021 ESET Insiders Share Posted August 17, 2021 As to their supposed "Poor" performance at AV Test and AVC https://www.eset.com/int/about/newsroom/press-releases/awards/eset-receives-top-product-awards-for-best-windows-antivirus-software-from-av-test-1/ https://www.av-comparatives.org/vendors/eset/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,659 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, NewbyUser said: The most important factor is what works best on YOUR system. While I do look over some AV test sites they don't govern why I use Eset. It's the best performing AV on my system and has been for a long time, way back to when "Advance Heuristics" was the big thing. I think this sums up the current Eset status. Many use Eset for its low system performance impact. Eset could implement "system watcher" based snapshoting and resultant system rollback feature such as Kaspersky has, but it will have an impact on system performance. On the other hand, it appears that Kaspersky in its recent versions have made this impact much less pronounced. Edited August 17, 2021 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders NewbyUser 72 Posted August 17, 2021 ESET Insiders Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, itman said: I think this sums up the current Eset status. Many use Eset for its low system performance impact. Eset could implement a "system watcher" and resultant system rollback feature such as Kaspersky has, but it will have an impact on system performance. On the other hand, it appears that Kaspersky in its recent versions have made this impact much less pronounced. I sort of agree on the system watcher/HIPS as we've already discussed. System rollback to me, should fall under your system back up plan and shouldn't involve your AV/AM. That makes for an overcomplicated app. Dedicated backup software should be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,659 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, NewbyUser said: As to their supposed "Poor" performance at AV Test https://www.eset.com/int/about/newsroom/press-releases/awards/eset-receives-top-product-awards-for-best-windows-antivirus-software-from-av-test-1/ Unfortunately, this was not the case in the most recent test: https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/windows-10/june-2021/eset-internet-security-14.1-211309/ . Eset scored 5/6 in the Protection category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders NewbyUser 72 Posted August 17, 2021 ESET Insiders Share Posted August 17, 2021 I’m aware of that. 97.9% for Zero day. Still a pretty good percentage. Again I don’t change my AV due to a single test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Valued Members peteyt 393 Posted August 17, 2021 Most Valued Members Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 hours ago, NewbyUser said: https://www.eset.com/int/about/newsroom/press-releases/company/after-22-years-of-outstanding-results-eset-discontinues-participation-in-vb100-and-vbspam-testing/ After reading the link I'm still unsure why they left although I presume it costs to take part? Just from a marketing perspective if they had the best run and kept getting great results why leave. Some do pick their AV based by results and surely having more good results would help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Insiders NewbyUser 72 Posted August 18, 2021 ESET Insiders Share Posted August 18, 2021 True. But there’s actually a market now for testing AV and the cost is too for some. Emsisoft for one example is a small company that likely can’t afford some of these tests yet they have a rather good product that would likely score well so they could use the marketing benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Style_xd 69 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 hours ago, NewbyUser said: True. But there’s actually a market now for testing AV and the cost is too for some. Emsisoft for one example is a small company that likely can’t afford some of these tests yet they have a rather good product that would likely score well so they could use the marketing benefit. Does anyone have any idea how much these tests are worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,659 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 21 hours ago, peteyt said: After reading the link I'm still unsure why they left Well, Eset stopped participating in the VB RAP (Reactive And Proactive) tests some time ago. Note that VB no longer performs RAP testing; at least as far as public disclosure of its test results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Style_xd 69 Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/18/2021 at 6:13 PM, itman said: Well, Eset stopped participating in the VB RAP (Reactive And Proactive) tests some time ago. Note that VB no longer performs RAP testing; at least as far as public disclosure of its test results. I had a doubt, ESET does not participate but the test of vb100 more in the installer of eset comes information that it is awarded by vb100 but when going to consult it does not participate for more than 1 year. There are people who, when you install the product, see this and see that it is not true. this could be a way of deceiving the customer and may lower ESET's product reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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