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FYI - Google Chrome Plans To Block AV Module Process Injection

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19 hours ago, itman said:

Interesting article that could cause issues for many security products. There is however talk on there about a whitelist which could make sense with the browser only blocking those that have issues

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Both Google and Mozilla want AV vendors out of their browsers; both are on record for that. Doubt Google will allow AV software to be whitelisted.

Main issues are pertaining to Eset is the recently implemented browser script protection that uses a hook and more importantly, Online Banking/Payment Protection. Regarding OPP, Eset best to get busy developing their own locked down browser or just restrict its use to IE and Edge.

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3 hours ago, itman said:

Both Google and Mozilla want AV vendors out of their browsers; both are on record for that. Doubt Google will allow AV software to be whitelisted.

Main issues are pertaining to Eset is the recently implemented browser script protection that uses a hook and more importantly, Online Banking/Payment Protection. Regarding OPP, Eset best to get busy developing their own locked down browser or just restrict its use to IE and Edge.

Would they not have a legal problem with this? I mean people pay for security features that works with browsers and they won't be happy if they suddenly stop working. There's also the risk of either side losing customers e.g. if AV's build their own browser or a shared browser Google and others will lose out or some will be forced to avoid certain features if they need specific browsers e.g. I use chrome as I have an android phone and have my desktop and mobile browser synced

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Just another attempt by Google to be "all things to all people". One of the key names to try and paint a bad picture of traditional antivirus products for years now. They won the web search battle against Yahoo and Microsoft years ago and are in the process of carving up the android market for themselves by being the only company to offer regular updates for phones.

I cant see every security vendor sitting back and letting them steal their business. Plus all these 3rd party security companies all have apps listed on Google Play Store , so how can that possibly be workable ?? or do they plan to corner the mobile antivirus market at the same time.

My guess is that in 10 years time they will still be drip feeding the same "Reworded" news ........

I also doubt that AV's are willing to build their own browsers to accompany their products. But i suppose with a good offer of royalties or cash that Mozilla could be persuaded to part with their code to be used in commercial products.



 

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3 minutes ago, cyberhash said:

to all people". One of the key names to try and paint a bad picture of traditional antivirus products for years now. They won the web search battle against Yahoo and Microsoft years ago and are in the process of carving up the android market for themselves by being the

Don't they own android?

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Just now, peteyt said:

Don't they own android?

Yes they do .... but what i meant by carving up the android market is that device/manufacurer specific versions of android is what they are trying to kill off.

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1 minute ago, cyberhash said:

Yes they do .... but what i meant by carving up the android market is that device/manufacurer specific versions of android is what they are trying to kill off.

To be honest it's not too bad an idea. The good thing with Android at the moment is the phone's can have extra stuff on, something you don't get with Apple e.g. Samsung has TouchWiz and other stuff. But the issue is that a lot of phones don't get updated or it takes ages. It's tricky trying to get it in the middle.

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2 minutes ago, peteyt said:

To be honest it's not too bad an idea. The good thing with Android at the moment is the phone's can have extra stuff on, something you don't get with Apple e.g. Samsung has TouchWiz and other stuff. But the issue is that a lot of phones don't get updated or it takes ages. It's tricky trying to get it in the middle.

I totally agree it's a mixed basket. I have a Motorola that is sitting on android 5.1 , and will probably never see another update before its time to resign it to the recycling and buy a new one.

For security i would love the latest update, but who is really to blame ??? do google only allow manufacturers to update devices to a certain build or is it decided by a timescale. Or do Motorola, Samsung etc not care ???

Pretty poor when you think that an expensive buy like a 2017 model smartphone could essentially be stuck with old apps and an old O/S if google corners it all for itself within months of purchase.

Competition is good for everyone, sadly when it comes to technology the choices are getting smaller as time goes on.

 

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