V3.Firewall 2 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I buy new pc 2016/ddr3 4gb windows 7 ultimate 32 biti I test eset smart security 8 trial 30 days and firewall have 0 protection against hackers or ddos attacks I play dota 1 and someone attacks my internet and eset firewall detect 0 block 0 my internet shut down I want to know if ESET Smart Security 9 have protection against ddos attack when someone attacks to shut down your internet We are 2016 and flood is nr 1 most dangerous dos attacks,ddos attacks etc We need a firewall to automatically detect attacks and to block this hackers I am waiting for an answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Staff Gonzalo Alvarez 66 Posted March 12, 2016 ESET Staff Share Posted March 12, 2016 Hi V3.Firewall, Interesting thing you post. Some questions arise... You are using a Router? or connects directly to Internet (dial-up?)? Routers nowadays include firewall so may I ask if you have configured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3.Firewall 2 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) Hi V3.Firewall, Interesting thing you post. Some questions arise... You are using a Router? or connects directly to Internet (dial-up?)? Routers nowadays include firewall so may I ask if you have configured? Hi man Gonzalo Alvarez Yes i buy this router TL-WR841N and have firewall against flood Screen Router Firewall hxxp://i67.tinypic.com/555ly0.jpg but eset smart security does not have protection against ddos attack ? Edited March 12, 2016 by V3.Firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,538 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) Open up Eset's advanced settings -> Network -> Personal Firewall -> IDS and advanced options -> Packet Inspection. Then ensure "TCP protocol overload detection" is checked marked as shown below. Then re-test. Edited March 12, 2016 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3.Firewall 2 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Open up Eset's advanced settings -> Network -> Personal Firewall -> IDS and advanced options -> Packet Inspection. Then ensure "TCP protocol overload detection" is checked marked as shown below. Then re-test. Eset_DDOS.png ok thanks I'll try and come back with an answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3.Firewall 2 Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) Open up Eset's advanced settings -> Network -> Personal Firewall -> IDS and advanced options -> Packet Inspection. Then ensure "TCP protocol overload detection" is checked marked as shown below. Then re-test. Eset_DDOS.png I check your settings and yes is online but 0 protection The only way to protect my internet It was to buy this router TL-WR841N and have firewall online protect against hackers or ddos attacks Second protection I buy this Outpost Firewall Pro 9.3 protect against hackers or ddos attacks I check google new firewall is name Anti DDoS Guardian 3.4 secure against Stop SYN flood, TCP flood, UDP flood, ICMP flood, bandwidth attacks etc eset smart security 8 and 9 the firewall is to weak against this attack and 0 detect and 0 block sorry You must work seriously with this firewall We are 2016 and flood is nr 1 most dangerous Edited March 13, 2016 by V3.Firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweX 871 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) "I play dota 1 and someone attacks my internet and eset firewall detect 0 block 0 my internet shut down" Is that a fact (it happened) or only an example of what you are afraid of could happen ? If yes, how do you know that it was an attack from "someone" against you ? IMO. You don't need to worry much about these types of attacks against your network, they are usually directed against websites, services, isp's and organization, not individual users. If large corporations can't protect their networks with enterprise-grade hardware (that cost loads of $$$) to stop or re-direct the traffic in a good way to keep their services going, how do you think a simple consumer router with "protection against X, Y and Z" will be able to handle that amount of traffic if a serious attack would be directed at you ? As an individual you are much more likely to encounter malware and/or privacy issues - than getting hit with a network attack. Your ISP can get attacked so it can indirectly affect you and your internet connectivity for a short or long time, depending on how big the attack is and how well the ISP can stop or re-direct the traffic, but it is not aimed at you personally. My ISP was target for a huge ddos attack last year, they were quite good at re-directing the traffic - but it still affected internet connectivity for some customers plus the IP-TV service for those that had that too, but there's nothing you as a customer can do about that. My router has these settings, and it can surely help against this or that, but I am not going to get seriously attacked since I am not a target - if I were to be attacked for some reason, I would most likely not stand a chance anyway. If I were you, then I would stop reading & comparing fancy words in product descriptions to stop scaring up myself for no good reason. But you are of course free to buy whatever you want if it makes you feel any better. Just don't buy what they used to "protect" the Central Bank of Bangladesh. It failed big time. We have had this firewall/attack discussion before and the situation has not changed since the last time: https://forum.eset.com/topic/6009-eset-smart-security-8windows-xp-sp3 (Well, the above thread turned into a discussion about some "King", though it seems like the old King (XP) has been replaced with a new King (Win 7) according to post 1 in this thread.) P.S Outpost is no more, and their customers have been offered licenses for another product. Edited March 13, 2016 by SweX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3.Firewall 2 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) "I play dota 1 and someone attacks my internet and eset firewall detect 0 block 0 my internet shut down" Is that a fact (it happened) or only an example of what you are afraid of could happen ? If yes, how do you know that it was an attack from "someone" against you ? IMO. You don't need to worry much about these types of attacks against your network, they are usually directed against websites, services, isp's and organization, not individual users. If large corporations can't protect their networks with enterprise-grade hardware (that cost loads of $$$) to stop or re-direct the traffic in a good way to keep their services going, how do you think a simple consumer router with "protection against X, Y and Z" will be able to handle that amount of traffic if a serious attack would be directed at you ? As an individual you are much more likely to encounter malware and/or privacy issues - than getting hit with a network attack. Your ISP can get attacked so it can indirectly affect you and your internet connectivity for a short or long time, depending on how big the attack is and how well the ISP can stop or re-direct the traffic, but it is not aimed at you personally. My ISP was target for a huge ddos attack last year, they were quite good at re-directing the traffic - but it still affected internet connectivity for some customers plus the IP-TV service for those that had that too, but there's nothing you as a customer can do about that. fw.JPG My router has these settings, and it can surely help against this or that, but I am not going to get seriously attacked since I am not a target - if I were to be attacked for some reason, I would most likely not stand a chance anyway. If I were you, then I would stop reading & comparing fancy words in product descriptions to stop scaring up myself for no good reason. But you are of course free to buy whatever you want if it makes you feel any better. Just don't buy what they used to "protect" the Central Bank of Bangladesh. It failed big time. We have had this firewall/attack discussion before and the situation has not changed since the last time: https://forum.eset.com/topic/6009-eset-smart-security-8windows-xp-sp3 (Well, the above thread turned into a discussion about some "King", though it seems like the old King (XP) has been replaced with a new King (Win 7) according to post 1 in this thread.) P.S Outpost is no more, and their customers have been offered licenses for another product. thanks for info but when i play dota 1 and i win some noob shut down my internet I have server muonline free with website where players come to play,and port 80/44405/55901 is open for players can access the page and the server now my server is shut down because the strong attack ddos I hate hacker now I buy this router [tp link wr841n and this Outpost Firewall Pro 9.3] to protect my internet the problem is eset smart security why have firewall ? if it does not protect your internet ?,when someone attacks you ? I hate hacker I hate noobs I hate kids play with hack but it seems that nothing has changed with eset smart security 8 or 9 same weak firewall It's so sad Edited March 14, 2016 by V3.Firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Staff Gonzalo Alvarez 66 Posted March 14, 2016 ESET Staff Share Posted March 14, 2016 Hi, You have your own answer, you are not a normal user. Sorry to say it but you will be a target of the "scriptkeedies" if you offer services. Based on that, your security and hardware have to be above the normal ones. So, don't use a Home product, move to Business one, Endpoint Security. I know is hard to assimilate but don't get -off, just assume as a "normal" thing when happen you been targeted and have a 2 step procedure to back to your normal ways on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3.Firewall 2 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 Hi, You have your own answer, you are not a normal user. Sorry to say it but you will be a target of the "scriptkeedies" if you offer services. Based on that, your security and hardware have to be above the normal ones. So, don't use a Home product, move to Business one, Endpoint Security. I know is hard to assimilate but don't get ######-off, just assume as a "normal" thing when happen you been targeted and have a 2 step procedure to back to your normal ways on the internet. thanks for info but to buy dedicated server with strong security It costs a lot of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Staff Gonzalo Alvarez 66 Posted March 14, 2016 ESET Staff Share Posted March 14, 2016 Yes, I'm not saying you do. If want to offer a free service is ok, and talks excellent of you. I just say, "don't get mad". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,538 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) Open up Eset's advanced settings -> Network -> Personal Firewall -> IDS and advanced options -> Packet Inspection. Then ensure "TCP protocol overload detection" is checked marked as shown below. Then re-test. Eset_DDOS.png I check your settings and yes is online but 0 protection The only way to protect my internet It was to buy this router TL-WR841N and have firewall online protect against hackers or ddos attacks Second protection I buy this Outpost Firewall Pro 9.3 protect against hackers or ddos attacks I check google new firewall is name Anti DDoS Guardian 3.4 secure against Stop SYN flood, TCP flood, UDP flood, ICMP flood, bandwidth attacks etc eset smart security 8 and 9 the firewall is to weak against this attack and 0 detect and 0 block sorry You must work seriously with this firewall We are 2016 and flood is nr 1 most dangerous If someone is launching a full scale DDoS attack against you, simply shutdown your network by selecting "Block Network" from the Eset lower toolbar icon as shown below: Eset has its "warts and all" but the retail firewall is not one of them. It is one of the few that has full IDS protection - Comodo's firewall doesn't have like protection. As far as the Google firewall settings you noted, the IDS and packet inspection configured as noted below equate to those: Edited March 14, 2016 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3.Firewall 2 Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) Open up Eset's advanced settings -> Network -> Personal Firewall -> IDS and advanced options -> Packet Inspection. Then ensure "TCP protocol overload detection" is checked marked as shown below. Then re-test. Eset_DDOS.png I check your settings and yes is online but 0 protection The only way to protect my internet It was to buy this router TL-WR841N and have firewall online protect against hackers or ddos attacks Second protection I buy this Outpost Firewall Pro 9.3 protect against hackers or ddos attacks I check google new firewall is name Anti DDoS Guardian 3.4 secure against Stop SYN flood, TCP flood, UDP flood, ICMP flood, bandwidth attacks etc eset smart security 8 and 9 the firewall is to weak against this attack and 0 detect and 0 block sorry You must work seriously with this firewall We are 2016 and flood is nr 1 most dangerous If someone is launching a full scale DDoS attack against you, simply shutdown your network by selecting "Block Network" from the Eset lower toolbar icon as shown below: Eset_Block_Network.png Eset has its "warts and all" but the retail firewall is not one of them. It is one of the few that has full IDS protection - Comodo's firewall doesn't have like protection. As far as the Google firewall settings you noted, the IDS and packet inspection configured as noted below equate to those: Eset_IDS_Packet_Settings.png thanks again for help but if you have server online and you shut down your network,players no longer play Now I secure my network with 2 firewall [router tp link wr841n and Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall 9.3] Maybe to buy a third firewall Anti DDoS Guardian 3.4 who knows anyway I spoke with the company to make this firewall stronger and stop big attacks not only small and medium attacks Maybe ESET Smart Security Company try to copy security has Anti DDoS Guardian 3.4 and add firewall eset smart security to detect flood attacks etc would be great Edited March 16, 2016 by V3.Firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,538 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Now I secure my network with 2 firewall [router tp link wr841n and Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall 9.3] I assume you know that Outpost is no longer a supported product since Agnitum was purchased by Sophos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweX 871 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Now I secure my network with 2 firewall [router tp link wr841n and Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall 9.3] I assume you know that Outpost is no longer a supported product since Agnitum was purchased by Sophos? It was Yandex that acquired Agnitum - the maker of the Outpost products. Sophos acquired SurfRight - the maker of the HitmanPro and HitmanPro.Alert products. But I am sure you just mixed them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,538 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) It was Yandex that acquired Agnitum - the maker of the Outpost products. Sophos acquired SurfRight - the maker of the HitmanPro and HitmanPro.Alert products. But I am sure you just mixed them up Yep. To many software vendor acquisitions these days .................... Edited March 19, 2016 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3.Firewall 2 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Now I secure my network with 2 firewall [router tp link wr841n and Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall 9.3] I assume you know that Outpost is no longer a supported product since Agnitum was purchased by Sophos? Of course I know: Agnitum will provide antivirus base updates, bug fixing and technical support until December 31, 2016. Outpost Firewall Pro 9.3 will never die the same with Windows XP It will still be used even if you do not receive updates Edited March 23, 2016 by V3.Firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweX 871 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Now I secure my network with 2 firewall [router tp link wr841n and Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall 9.3] I assume you know that Outpost is no longer a supported product since Agnitum was purchased by Sophos? Of course I know: Agnitum will provide antivirus base updates, bug fixing and technical support until December 31, 2016. Outpost Firewall Pro 9.3 will never die the same with Windows XP It will still be used even if you do not receive updates But since you now run Win 7.... "I buy new pc 2016/ddr3 4gb windows 7 ultimate 32 biti" ....there's no need to bother with XP and softwares that will soon be discontinued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3.Firewall 2 Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) Now I secure my network with 2 firewall [router tp link wr841n and Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall 9.3] I assume you know that Outpost is no longer a supported product since Agnitum was purchased by Sophos? Of course I know: Agnitum will provide antivirus base updates, bug fixing and technical support until December 31, 2016. Outpost Firewall Pro 9.3 will never die the same with Windows XP It will still be used even if you do not receive updates But since you now run Win 7.... "I buy new pc 2016/ddr3 4gb windows 7 ultimate 32 biti" ....there's no need to bother with XP and softwares that will soon be discontinued. who told you that ? ) windows xp sp3 will never die are still many who use it,yes i have new pc buy from 2016 ddr3 4gb and have windows 7 ultimate but I buy after 11 years this new pc there are many who have no money to buy a new pc,because of that remain to Windows XP Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall 9.3 never die even if you do not receive updates,this firewall is one of the best on the market why ? It is easy to configure and automatically detects flood and block for 60 minutes Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall 9.3 have 3 levels of protection: 1.Low Security 2.Optimal Security 3.Maximum Security I test ESET Smart Security trial 8 and 9 and firewall have 0 protection against hackers,if a hacker will attack your network firewall smart security It will not help at all,why put a firewall if you do not defend your network ? Edited March 25, 2016 by V3.Firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Staff Gonzalo Alvarez 66 Posted March 28, 2016 ESET Staff Share Posted March 28, 2016 I think you are missing some point here. Everything we named on the past for a particular X thing is nowadays more than that specific function. You are mention 1 functionality and 2 protections (not going to discuss that), but ESET Firewall has the function to control and analyze network traffic and if its suspicious or bad block it (from inside to out or viceversa). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweX 871 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) @V3.Firewall You do as you like. I have nothing more to add. ESS and its firewall will protect the computer it is installed nicely. If you want to protect your whole network to which you connect your computer that you have ESS installed on + other computers and/or mobile devices. Then you might better try to do that in your hardware e.g router, hardware firewall...etc etc that all internet traffic runs through. Perhaps you should invest in a UTM solution or similar, even if they are not much of a firewall specifically. But that is OT for this thread. I think you should just settle down and use ESS and try to stop worry so much about what could happen or not. And instead think about if it is realistic or not. Again, I doubt a hacker will try to hack you because you are not of any interest for them. They hack into stuff where they can get their hands on valuable databases, documents, files, confidential and secret stuff basically. And I don't think you sit on any information of that sort. Edited March 29, 2016 by SweX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3.Firewall 2 Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) I think you are missing some point here. Everything we named on the past for a particular X thing is nowadays more than that specific function. You are mention 1 functionality and 2 protections (not going to discuss that), but ESET Firewall has the function to control and analyze network traffic and if its suspicious or bad block it (from inside to out or viceversa). @V3.Firewall You do as you like. I have nothing more to add. ESS and its firewall will protect the computer it is installed nicely. If you want to protect your whole network to which you connect your computer that you have ESS installed on + other computers and/or mobile devices. Then you might better try to do that in your hardware e.g router, hardware firewall...etc etc that all internet traffic runs through. Perhaps you should invest in a UTM solution or similar, even if they are not much of a firewall specifically. But that is OT for this thread. I think you should just settle down and use ESS and try to stop worry so much about what could happen or not. And instead think about if it is realistic or not. Again, I doubt a hacker will try to hack you because you are not of any interest for them. They hack into stuff where they can get their hands on valuable databases, documents, files, confidential and secret stuff basically. And I don't think you sit on any information of that sort. Thanks for replay let's begin: ESET Smart Security trial 8 and 9 have 0 protection against hacker or strong ddos attack I have [server Games MuOnline/Free of course] test ESET Smart Security 9 trial Very soon I am going to open a second server Cstrike 1.6 Online ESET Smart Security 9 secure my network good,only 3 port is open The player can have access page and the server: 80,44405,55901 Some noob,hacker,kid whatever you want to say attack my network with ddos,It was so strong my pc blocked and [ESET Smart Security 9 trial 0 detect and 0 block] the firewall is to weak against this attack The company must work seriously with this firewall to have have a very strong protection against ddos attack A lot company add firewall with antivirus but have 0 protection same with [windows firewall] I do not understand why they did not take action and creat a strong firewall against hacker and ddos attack In my experience: the firewall need to have strong protection against hacker and ddos attack when they try to attack your network but the firewall must be easily configured and It can automatically detect the attack and block it DDoS attack has become very strong with each new years and many companies do not take action at all Yes you can buy dedicated server with strong protection but cost a lot of money I temporarily secure my network with 2 firewall to stop this ddos attack: 1:I buy a router TL-WR841N with firewall detect and stop flood 2:I buy a Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall 9.3 to secure my network against flood 3:Anti DDoS Guardian 3.4 I think about if I buy or not 4:ESET Smart Security trial 8 and 9 It did not help at all Hope ESET Smart Security Version:10/11/12/13 etc will make serious improvements to the firewall Edited March 29, 2016 by V3.Firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itman 1,538 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) ESET Smart Security 9 secure my network good,only 3 port is open The player can have access page and the server: 80,44405,55901 A couple of questions on this. When you created an Eset firewall rule for your game app, did you only allow outbound connections to those ports? Did you verify that the Eset firewall was installed properly? When installed properly, Eset disables the front-end components of the Win firewall but leaves enabled the Windows Filtering Platform components. This can be verified by accessing the Win firewall settings via Control Panel and verifying that the settings screen displayed looks similar to the screen shown below. That is, it is shown Eset is managing the Win firewall settings: -EDIT- Also, Eset IDS has no UDP flood protection. So, if your DDoS attack was UDP based, you have a valid complaint. Edited March 29, 2016 by itman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Staff Gonzalo Alvarez 66 Posted March 29, 2016 ESET Staff Share Posted March 29, 2016 Just to be clear: the "trial" version of ESET is a license of 30 days. You can remove the "trial" word because is a license thing, and not affect the software at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3.Firewall 2 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 ESET Smart Security 9 secure my network good,only 3 port is open The player can have access page and the server: 80,44405,55901 A couple of questions on this. When you created an Eset firewall rule for your game app, did you only allow outbound connections to those ports? Did you verify that the Eset firewall was installed properly? When installed properly, Eset disables the front-end components of the Win firewall but leaves enabled the Windows Filtering Platform components. This can be verified by accessing the Win firewall settings via Control Panel and verifying that the settings screen displayed looks similar to the screen shown below. That is, it is shown Eset is managing the Win firewall settings: Win_Firewall_Managed.png -EDIT- Also, Eset IDS has no UDP flood protection. So, if your DDoS attack was UDP based, you have a valid complaint. You have ever received strong attack ddos ? I do not believe You checked the firewall settings ? It does not offer protection against flood Now if someone wants to attack your network your ESET Smart Security 9 will give you 0 protection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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