Future changes to ESET Internet Security and ESET Smart Security Premium

[Arakasi 549]

Haha oh lawdy.

I cant stop laughing, im so sorry.

Enhanced dust protection. Click submit in the advanced section. Cpu fan integration. 100% rpm.

Dust doesnt stand a chance.

Please dont kill me for that haha.

Respectfully these options are not warranted.

lol dust protection.

[Arakasi 549]

What is super rootkit for 500 Bob.

Super detection with super spyware super protection for 1000 Bob

What is the technology for block all hakers ?

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Edited July 22, 2014 by Arakasi

[SweX 871]

@kakashi.

 

You've said what you think needs to be improved or added several times already there is no need to repeat it every week. Thanks 

[Hugh Tash 0]

Description: Add to exclusions in Computer scan Action list.
 
Detail: Users may wish to keep some files that ESET Smart Security detects as PUAs or threats during Computer scan. There are only three options in Actions to choose from: Clean, Delete, No action. 

I suggest to add a fourth option: Set action to Add to exclusions

 
 

[sky7 19]

1. ESET shows very low false-positive ratio however Real-time file system protection 'default setting' should not quarantine detected items automatically.
2. Maybe non-advanced user hard to find real-time file system protection detected item cleaning option. (It's under the ThreatSense engine parameter setup)
I hope that detected items cleaning option is moved to real-time file system protection setting menu.
 

[SweX 871]

1. why not?  

 

Quarantining a file is not the same as deleting the file. One can't expect non experienced users to know how to handle a detection. Today the users will see a popup saying "Win32.Trojan....quarantined" there's no question like "allow, block, remove, clean, quarantine etc.." involved at all. And that is the safest way to do it having the user in mind. One should keep the "user dependent" popups to a minimum when it comes to threat detections for several reasons.

 

So incase of a FP users can restore quarantined items from the quarantine.

 

I know for a fact that my neighbour for example would call me every singel time asking for advice what he should do unless a threat is quarantined automatically.

 

But i'm curious to hear what you think is a better way, if threats should not be quarantined automatically...what is better and safer for the user? Asking the user is not a better or safer way IMO.

 

Edit: For example vendors having too much of the yellow (user dependent) detections in the AV-C RWPT are working to minimize that in their products making them more automatic resulting in a more user friendly and easier to use product: hxxp://chart.av-comparatives.org/chart1.php

Edited July 27, 2014 by SweX

[JNCx8 2]

ESET ta think going by a very good way but lacking some things that could make it better if adicionassem the following options: 

 

Improve Firewall is very important to have a good firewall and I think that ESET is not yet at the level of the other antivirus much you can improve, such as adding IP blacklisting. what is this? Simple! When a malicious program is detected in your computer, although it is obfuscated if ESET detects 1xx.xxx.xxx.xxx IP, and that IP finds the black list is blocked and neutralized by ESET, basically the IP black listing serves to block malicious programs whose PIs present in the black list are hackers or invasadores and so will be easily blocked with ip blacklist 

 

Another point is the rapid analysis ESET does not have an option for quick analysis, intelligent takes almost 30 minutes or 1 hour, a quick scan only serves to verify the paths where the virus constumam normally install, a quick search was ideal also .. 

 

One thing I would think is very good at eset Camfeting(VERY GOOD and Important) what's this? is an option to prevent hackers or attackers to view your webcam, hackers, intruders, hackers always like to see who is behind the monitor, and that this option would do is tell the user that Program X in X folder you trying to view this your webcam, al the user decides whether to block or allow access to the same, may also create a blacklist of malicious programs try to access the webcam, and also could add a option and exclusions could come already configured to allow viewing the webcam on Skype , Hotmail, Facebook, ooVoo, and other well known programs .. the rest is left to the user to add exclusions. 

 

On the firewall I'm feeling a lack of resolve hostsnames and IP and Port .. Firewall lot that will be very useful, should also add the following categories to be able to view the firewall 

 

- Open Ports (sample open ports on your computer, and the programs that are using IP, port, the Directorate and if possible the parents where they come from) 
 

- Network Traffic (very useful to know which program is using too much bandwidth is much easier to detect malware that is connected to our PC, and you can add a black list to the right) 

- Blocked Computers (Sample the IP block can unlock or lock all or allowing for X minutes or hours) 

 

One thing that is lacking in ESET is segure payments via banks who uses Online like me, you always have extra security although it is useless, it's always good to have more security .. The Eset does not have a secure wallet or a safe keypad. 

 

There is a useful thing, that should also add that ESET is blocking changes in the mouse settings .. Yes. Many hackers try to change the right side of the mouse to the left side .. How so? example some hackers use programs to change the options on the right side to the left side of the options on the left go to the right, and the right pass options to the left .. many hackers use it to hinder the person handling the computer, as such ESET could block or warn X user that a program is trying to change the computer settings .. 

 

Pages of fright or broken, many hackers in malicious programs try to open scary exorcist type pages, or others .. ESET could have a black list .. also to block and prevent Hackers enjoy with our face .. 

 

I also feel the lack of a Network Monitor, showing basically the reports Firewall and internet connections could show how much was used in 6 months or 3 months .. and 1 week .. It is very useful. 

 

Many Hackers use crypters made ​​in visual basic 2006 (VB6) most crypters are made by amateurs is ai or novice is almost always done in this program that is most ideal crypters then was trying to find some way to block or find that was encrypted. 

 

It remains to add one thing that many antivirus ignore! Yes .. ADWARE Adware is in websites installers, these adware modify our home page and add extensions and create files in the Windows registry and modify the htdocs changing the home page of the browser and the search engine would be the ideal eset invent something which does not allow such a thing .. it is very annoying Adware is a plague is also considered an intruder and a persistent virus! Many antivirus does not bind to it .. Few care but the truth is that this is becoming more persistent and ended up finding on several websites for download. 

 

Summarizing the ESET needs to improve in the following sections (and maybe add more options or better) 

 

- Firewall (would be nice to add ESET flags of countries on the firewall, but detected programs or open should be sampled where the connection comes from parents that .. Basically ESET would make a Lookup IP and route of parents who come to connect .. (ex : China, HongKong or Holland)

- Search Engine Malware

- Network Monitor (connections, protocols, ports and the like) 

- Secure Payments (Online Banking, Insurance Payments) 

- Camfeting 

- Analyze Malware in Memory (improvement is not always removed the virus when it is persistent, although most cases are detected does not get to remove when it is persistent)

- Quick Review

Edited August 2, 2014 by JNCx8

[Octavian 5]

 

ESET ta think going by a very good way but lacking some things that could make it better if adicionassem the following options: 

 

Improve Firewall is very important to have a good firewall and I think that ESET is not yet at the level of the other antivirus much you can improve, such as adding IP blacklisting. what is this? Simple! When a malicious program is detected in your computer, although it is obfuscated if ESET detects 1xx.xxx.xxx.xxx IP, and that IP finds the black list is blocked and neutralized by ESET, basically the IP black listing serves to block malicious programs whose PIs present in the black list are hackers or invasadores and so will be easily blocked with ip blacklist 

 

Another point is the rapid analysis ESET does not have an option for quick analysis, intelligent takes almost 30 minutes or 1 hour, a quick scan only serves to verify the paths where the virus constumam normally install, a quick search was ideal also .. 

 

One thing I would think is very good at eset Camfeting(VERY GOOD and Important) what's this? is an option to prevent hackers or attackers to view your webcam, hackers, intruders, hackers always like to see who is behind the monitor, and that this option would do is tell the user that Program X in X folder you trying to view this your webcam, al the user decides whether to block or allow access to the same, may also create a blacklist of malicious programs try to access the webcam, and also could add a option and exclusions could come already configured to allow viewing the webcam on Skype , Hotmail, Facebook, ooVoo, and other well known programs .. the rest is left to the user to add exclusions. 

 

On the firewall I'm feeling a lack of resolve hostsnames and IP and Port .. Firewall lot that will be very useful, should also add the following categories to be able to view the firewall 

 

- Open Ports (sample open ports on your computer, and the programs that are using IP, port, the Directorate and if possible the parents where they come from) 

 

- Network Traffic (very useful to know which program is using too much bandwidth is much easier to detect malware that is connected to our PC, and you can add a black list to the right) 

- Blocked Computers (Sample the IP block can unlock or lock all or allowing for X minutes or hours) 

 

One thing that is lacking in ESET is segure payments via banks who uses Online like me, you always have extra security although it is useless, it's always good to have more security .. The Eset does not have a secure wallet or a safe keypad. 

 

There is a useful thing, that should also add that ESET is blocking changes in the mouse settings .. Yes. Many hackers try to change the right side of the mouse to the left side .. How so? example some hackers use programs to change the options on the right side to the left side of the options on the left go to the right, and the right pass options to the left .. many hackers use it to hinder the person handling the computer, as such ESET could block or warn X user that a program is trying to change the computer settings .. 

 

Pages of fright or broken, many hackers in malicious programs try to open scary exorcist type pages, or others .. ESET could have a black list .. also to block and prevent Hackers enjoy with our face .. 

 

I also feel the lack of a Network Monitor, showing basically the reports Firewall and internet connections could show how much was used in 6 months or 3 months .. and 1 week .. It is very useful. 

 

Many Hackers use crypters made ​​in visual basic 2006 (VB6) most crypters are made by amateurs is ai or novice is almost always done in this program that is most ideal crypters then was trying to find some way to block or find that was encrypted. 

 

It remains to add one thing that many antivirus ignore! Yes .. ADWARE Adware is in websites installers, these adware modify our home page and add extensions and create files in the Windows registry and modify the htdocs changing the home page of the browser and the search engine would be the ideal eset invent something which does not allow such a thing .. it is very annoying Adware is a plague is also considered an intruder and a persistent virus! Many antivirus does not bind to it .. Few care but the truth is that this is becoming more persistent and ended up finding on several websites for download. 

 

Summarizing the ESET needs to improve in the following sections (and maybe add more options or better) 

 

- Firewall (would be nice to add ESET flags of countries on the firewall, but detected programs or open should be sampled where the connection comes from parents that .. Basically ESET would make a Lookup IP and route of parents who come to connect .. (ex : China, HongKong or Holland)

- Search Engine Malware

- Network Monitor (connections, protocols, ports and the like) 

- Secure Payments (Online Banking, Insurance Payments) 

- Camfeting 

- Analyze Malware in Memory (improvement is not always removed the virus when it is persistent, although most cases are detected does not get to remove when it is persistent)

- Quick Review

 

 

Yes, there are good suggestions.

 

 

Also Eset Firewall does not fully protect protocol IPv 6.

Network Monitor can also detect if there are connected devices on home network, to prevent unauthorized connection to the home network.

VPN (Virtual Private Network) can be added for secure network connection.

[SweX 871]

@JNCx8

 

ESET does already use URL and IP blocking in the products. Works very well.

 

Adwares are detected, but what you describe in terms of homepage changes etc.. sounds more like a work done by our PUA friends so it can also be good to enable detections of Potentially Unwanted and Unsafe applications in the product.(user optional)

 

We already have AMS (Advanced Memory Scanner) that take care of the memory so it automatically scans everything you execute.

 

"Another point is the rapid analysis ESET does not have an option for quick analysis, intelligent takes almost 30 minutes or 1 hour, a quick scan only serves to verify the paths where the virus constumam normally install, a quick search was ideal also .." 

 

No not really, besides there is nothing called a quick scan in ESET products. But we have a Smart Scan...

 

Smart scan: This is the default scanning profile. The Smart scan profile uses Smart Optimization technology, which excludes files that were found to be clean in a previous scan and have not been modified since that scan. This allows for lower scan times with a minimal impact to system security. 

And Yes the very first scan usually takes longer to finish but the following scans will be quicker.

 

"camfeting" well malware is malware so whether the aim is to watch you through the webcam, or steal money from you it doesn't really matter. And people can easily take care of their webcams on their own.

I like Mikkos way of doing it...

Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer at F-Secure, who recommends using a Band-Aid, since it won't gunk up the webcam lens.

 

If your computer is clean from keyloggers, (and any other type of malware) and your browser is not hi-jacked in some way, and you connect to the bank via HTTPs the so called "banking mode" "secure wallet" "shopping protection" and what else they are called is redundant.

Edited August 3, 2014 by SweX

[Octavian 5]

@JNCx8

 

ESET does already use URL and IP blocking in the products. Works very well.

 

Adwares are detected, but what you describe in terms of homepage changes etc.. sounds more like a work done by our PUA friends so it can also be good to enable detections of Potentially Unwanted and Unsafe applications in the product.(user optional)

 

We already have AMS (Advanced Memory Scanner) that take care of the memory so it automatically scans everything you execute.

 

"Another point is the rapid analysis ESET does not have an option for quick analysis, intelligent takes almost 30 minutes or 1 hour, a quick scan only serves to verify the paths where the virus constumam normally install, a quick search was ideal also .." 

 

No not really, besides there is nothing called a quick scan in ESET products. But we have a Smart Scan...

 

Smart scan: This is the default scanning profile. The Smart scan profile uses Smart Optimization technology, which excludes files that were found to be clean in a previous scan and have not been modified since that scan. This allows for lower scan times with a minimal impact to system security. 

And Yes the very first scan usually takes longer to finish but the following scans will be quicker.

 

"camfeting" well malware is malware so whether the aim is to watch you through the webcam, or steal money from you it doesn't really matter. And people can easily take care of their webcams on their own.

I like Mikkos way of doing it...

Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer at F-Secure, who recommends using a Band-Aid, since it won't gunk up the webcam lens.

 

If your computer is clean from keyloggers, (and any other type of malware) and your browser is not hi-jacked in some way, and you connect to the bank via HTTPs the so called "banking mode" "secure wallet" "shopping protection" and what else they are called is redundant.

 

Banking Mode or Secure Wallet is necessary for making payments more quickly and secure. It is not correct to say that Payments Security is  redundant..

[rugk 397]

What should be more secure in this "banking mode"?

If you want more security use another browser without plug-ins and add-on.

And use the windows virtual keyboard.

This can be more secure, but such a banking mode would be useless.

And by the way: How should it get quicker in this mode?

Edited August 3, 2014 by rugk

[Arakasi 549]

 

@JNCx8

 

ESET does already use URL and IP blocking in the products. Works very well.

 

Adwares are detected, but what you describe in terms of homepage changes etc.. sounds more like a work done by our PUA friends so it can also be good to enable detections of Potentially Unwanted and Unsafe applications in the product.(user optional)

 

We already have AMS (Advanced Memory Scanner) that take care of the memory so it automatically scans everything you execute.

 

"Another point is the rapid analysis ESET does not have an option for quick analysis, intelligent takes almost 30 minutes or 1 hour, a quick scan only serves to verify the paths where the virus constumam normally install, a quick search was ideal also .." 

 

No not really, besides there is nothing called a quick scan in ESET products. But we have a Smart Scan...

 

Smart scan: This is the default scanning profile. The Smart scan profile uses Smart Optimization technology, which excludes files that were found to be clean in a previous scan and have not been modified since that scan. This allows for lower scan times with a minimal impact to system security. 

And Yes the very first scan usually takes longer to finish but the following scans will be quicker.

 

"camfeting" well malware is malware so whether the aim is to watch you through the webcam, or steal money from you it doesn't really matter. And people can easily take care of their webcams on their own.

I like Mikkos way of doing it...

Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer at F-Secure, who recommends using a Band-Aid, since it won't gunk up the webcam lens.

 

If your computer is clean from keyloggers, (and any other type of malware) and your browser is not hi-jacked in some way, and you connect to the bank via HTTPs the so called "banking mode" "secure wallet" "shopping protection" and what else they are called is redundant.

 

Banking Mode or Secure Wallet is necessary for making payments more quickly and secure. It is not correct to say that Payments Security is  redundant..

 

Banking mode, wallets, secure bank mode, whatever they want to call them, or all false sense of securities that only provide selling points for users.

ESET protects you while your banking and they dont have to come up with these "schemes" which are absolutely RETARDED !

 

https://forum.eset.com/topic/2654-financial-malwarebanking-mode/?hl=%2Beset+%2Bbanking

 

https://forum.eset.com/topic/51-future-changes-to-eset-smart-security/page-6#entry10746

[rugk 397]

@all: By the way: Could you please stop quoting full posts. It makes the topic very unclear.

Edited August 3, 2014 by rugk

[kakashi 6]

eset corp i have more ideas for eset 8 

 

 

add a new engine  

• Do Not Track
  Stops data collecting companies from tracking you online.

 

new protection agains cookies browser    some cookies bypass the webroser and steal data or spy the users 

 

new engine to scan afull  encriptep website to detect  it is fake or modifie  to steal data or have any vunabilities that can put your pc and any danger 

that may inclues https  the spam and more 

 

anti spy engine protection

 

anti keyloager 

 

fix the anti virus drivers crash some hakers atack the programs engine to crash it in order to acess to the pc or spy the user 

 

add real time protocol detection = this means if a haker is floodingor taking you  or clone your mac or is traking you  or is traking to acess anyware of the sistem the antivirus  will block the acess event if it use full brute force to enter 

 

new engine protection to protect windows host =Host Intrusion Prevention System

 

 

add this  Buffer overflow detection

This dynamically analyzes the behavior of programs running on the system in order to detect buffer overflow attacks.

Behavioral Genotype Protection

Monitors code on a computer, and blocks any that would behave maliciously before it is executed. Unlike other runtime HIPS, which monitor running code and intervene once they believe suspicious behavior has occurred, Behavioral Genotype Protection identifies and blocks malicious programs before execution

add Enhanced Browser Protection  mean all browsers 

add enhance cookie protection

add Privacy & Security ToolbarProvides Site Check, Do Not Track, Facebook Privacy Scan, private browsing and more. 

add new engine to block all the atacks from xbox live when you are playing online  incliding dos and more 

 

add ultimate rookit detection and scan  section to scan all 

 

thank you 

 

[SweX 871]

@kakashi

 

I have a tip for you...

If you want "Behavioral Genotype Protection" take a look at Sophos I think they already have that

 

We don't need a separate engine for each malware group, spyware and keyloggers are Already covered and detected by the current ThreatSense scan engine.

 

Cookies are harmless unlike malware, some may track but they are still harmless to your computer. And users who want to block off tracking cookies are most likely already aware of the different browser add-ons that everyone can install wich will do that job just fine. Detecting cookies is not really a job task for an AV.

 

I feel there's no need to comment on the rest of the ideas. Facebook and Privacy in the same sentence that's a first.

add enhance cookie protection add Privacy & Security ToolbarProvides Site Check, Do Not Track, Facebook Privacy Scan, private browsing and more.  add new engine to block all the atacks from xbox live when you are playing online  incliding dos and more    add ultimate rookit detection and scan  section to scan all 

 

[Octavian 5]

What should be more secure in this "banking mode"?

If you want more security use another browser without plug-ins and add-on.

And use the windows virtual keyboard.

This can be more secure, but such a banking mode would be useless.

And by the way: How should it get quicker in this mode?

 

Safe Pay (safe banking) can  make online transactions from a unique, dedicated browser, that secured your accounts from fraud. Safe pay  can now also automatically fill credit card details in billing fields.

 

Wallet feature is a secure tool that speeds up online shopping by autocompleting credit card details within payment fields. Apart from purchase details, Wallet can also safely organize credentials for favorite websites, messaging applications, or frequently-used WI-FI networks.

[SweX 871]

 

What should be more secure in this "banking mode"?

If you want more security use another browser without plug-ins and add-on.

And use the windows virtual keyboard.

This can be more secure, but such a banking mode would be useless.

And by the way: How should it get quicker in this mode?

 

Safe Pay (safe banking) can  make online transactions from a unique, dedicated browser, that secured your accounts from fraud. Safe pay  can now also automatically fill credit card details in billing fields.

 

Wallet feature is a secure tool that speeds up online shopping by autocompleting credit card details within payment fields. Apart from purchase details, Wallet can also safely organize credentials for favorite websites, messaging applications, or frequently-used WI-FI networks.

 

Please correct me if i'm wrong....

 

1. Automatically fill in details...doesn't that mean I have to trust the "app" and put in my precious details into the app for that auto-filling function to work? No thank you!

 

2. Again, speed up my online shopping (i'm not in a hurry!) by having my details in the app so the app can "auto-complete" that for me. No! And I don't care if all of it is encrypted or not.

 

To me it sounds very similar to how a password manager works, having my passwords in it will allow it to auto fill my password whenever I login somewhere. But this is for banking, no I will never trust an app with my bank details ever!

 

 You said -> "Banking Mode or Secure Wallet is necessary for making payments more quickly and secure."

 

Tell us how it is more secure to connect to the bank through the "safe pay browser".

Than doing it in my own browser from my Malware and Keylogger free computer.

Edited August 11, 2014 by SweX

[rugk 397]

@Octavaian

If you want to make your online banking like you describe faster then use a password manager. I don't know if there are also password manager that also fills in credit cards. But this thing (no matter if it's in ESET or in other products) can also be a security risk. Your credit card data can be stolen if it's not saved encrypted. And if you want a wise encryption you also have to enter a password. And then you should make sure that you use a strong password. And don't forget: You must have a huge trust in this program and you would have to hope that there aren't any security holes in it!

And your "Safe Pay" or "Safe Banking" is really unnecessary. For the reasons see the posts before.

 

@kakashi

If I look on what you post...

Please stop saying things like "make ultimate XY" or "add enhanced XY"!

Have a look at the blue text that @Aryeh Goretsky wrote in his first post in this topic:

NOTE:  When making your requests do not make general statements such as "better detection, HIPS, firewall, cleaning, and so forth."  ESET's threat researchers constantly examine new threats and release updates to the virus signature database and to the modules in order to improve these functions.  If you have a specific feature or functionality you would like to see added (or improved) please post it here, but general requests to "make things better" are not helpful because they do not give ESET detailed enough information.  Thank you for your understanding.

Edited August 4, 2014 by rugk

[SweX 871]

@kakashi

If I look on what you post...

Please stop saying things like "make ultimate XY" or "add enhanced XY"!

Have a look at the blue text that @Aryeh Goretsky wrote in his first post in this topic:

NOTE:  When making your requests do not make general statements such as "better detection, HIPS, firewall, cleaning, and so forth."  ESET's threat researchers constantly examine new threats and release updates to the virus signature database and to the modules in order to improve these functions.  If you have a specific feature or functionality you would like to see added (or improved) please post it here, but general requests to "make things better" are not helpful because they do not give ESET detailed enough information.  Thank you for your understanding.

 

Yeah and I (we) shouldn't really reply, I kind of feel I put more wood on his fire by replying. But I feel a need to reply and explain that this feature called " iWatch super advanced behavior based malware blocker " may not be what you think it is, and a product may have a very similar function but it is called something totally different in a product from another vendor. So browsing around looking at products from other vendors and what their features are called, only to post them here as future ideas or even requesting them to be added is just a waste of time.

Edited August 4, 2014 by SweX

[rugk 397]

Yeah and I shouldn't really reply, I kind of put more wood on his fire by replying. But I feel a need to reply and explain that this feature called " iWatch super advanced behavior based malware blocker " may not be what you think it is, and a product may have a very similar function but it is called something totally different in a product from another vendor. So browsing around looking at products from other vendors and what their features are called, only to post them here as future ideas or even requesting them to be added is just a waste of time.

 

No problem! It's good to explain why his feedback is not such good, but sometimes you also have to exhort...

[SweX 871]

 

Yeah and I shouldn't really reply, I kind of put more wood on his fire by replying. But I feel a need to reply and explain that this feature called " iWatch super advanced behavior based malware blocker " may not be what you think it is, and a product may have a very similar function but it is called something totally different in a product from another vendor. So browsing around looking at products from other vendors and what their features are called, only to post them here as future ideas or even requesting them to be added is just a waste of time.

 

No problem! It's good to explain why his feedback is not such good, but sometimes you also have to exhort...

 

Yeah but its not really feedback (as I see feedback) that he gives, its more like he want a total rewrite of the software by comparing ESET's features to 30 other products that have all those "features" that apparently is missing in ESET that just have to be added so ESET becomes the best of the best. 

Edited August 4, 2014 by SweX

[rugk 397]

Yeah but its not really feedback (as I see feedback) that he gives, its more like he want a total rewrite of the software by comparing ESET's features to 30 other products that have all those "features" that apparently is missing in ESET that just have to be added so it becomes the best of the best. 

Maybe but I don't think other AV vendors have "ultimate anti-keylogger" or "ultimate anti-rootkit". Maybe it's just his fantasy.

But i have to agree: It's not really feedback.

Edited August 4, 2014 by rugk

[SweX 871]

 

Yeah but its not really feedback (as I see feedback) that he gives, its more like he want a total rewrite of the software by comparing ESET's features to 30 other products that have all those "features" that apparently is missing in ESET that just have to be added so it becomes the best of the best. 

Maybe but I don't think other AV vendors have "ultimate anti-keylogger" or "ultimate anti-rootkit".

But i have to agree: It's not really feedback.

 

No he did of course add "ultimate" to some of the "ideas" to make the message clear. Ultimate or don't bother. 

[rugk 397]

No he did of course add "ultimate" to some of the "ideas" to make the message clear. Ultimate or don't bother.

 

But we should get back to topic...

[SweX 871]

 

No he did of course add "ultimate" to some of the "ideas" to make the message clear. Ultimate or don't bother.

 

But we should get back to topic...

Yeah let's forget about the banking fluff fluff and the ultimate stuff...and focus on the real-world, real products, and real features. 

Edited August 4, 2014 by SweX