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Ver. 17.0.3 Secure Search Issue


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2 minutes ago, itman said:

Thanks. Same result here. Good to know Safe search working as designed which is Eset blacklist detection only. The question is since Eset will detect these black list web sites upon access, is Safe search redundant?

I suppose people may want to avoid clicking on the link in the first place.

People often post about blocks worrying they have been infected so this will stop some users visiting in the first place, avoiding these posts 

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People often post about blocks worrying they have been infected so this will stop some users visiting in the first place, avoiding these posts 

Or, they will just start posting why Safe search flagged the web site. 🙄

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New problems surfaced this morning at system startup and there a multiple ones.

The first one is when I tried to open some of my apps via Win 10 Search bar option, they wouldn't open. Am I hacked! This also included the Eset GUI via desktop toolbar icon option. Further testing yielded that only the apps that had Eset HIPS rules were the problem. Sure enough, after about 20 secs. or so, I'm bombarded with all the queued HIPS app alerts with some of  the apps opening on their own. After a period of time, the app opening problem did disappear, but did repeat on subsequent system restart.

Next problem is when I opened Eset Safe Banking option via its desktop icon option, I get the notification to add Safe Browser extension. Of course allowing that did not add the extension in FireFox since stand-alone Safe Browsing doesn't allow any extensions to run and it does not to install.

I next checked Eset ver. 17 modules and see that Browser protection updated to ver, 1331. So I reverted to Eset normal update mode which set Browser protection module back to ver. 1327. After system restart, above problems persist.

At this point, I have had it with ver. 17. I am reverting back to ver. 16.2.15. Eset needs much more internal testing of ver. 17 until its released to production.

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6 minutes ago, czesetfan said:

What search engines are or will be supported in the future?

(Google Search, DuckDuckGo,....)

Google and Bing are supported. As for other search engines, it will depend on the demand from users.

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At least the basic DuckDuckGo and StartPage, which will probably please many.

Supporting only Google and Bing for an add-on that is supposed to improve (besides security) users' privacy would be a bit smiley. 😉

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How does the "Browser Cleanup" function work?

Does it use the built-in cleaning options of the browser (cookies, history...) or does it work independently and perform the cleaning in a different way?

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41 minutes ago, czesetfan said:

How does the "Browser Cleanup" function work?

Does it use the built-in cleaning options of the browser (cookies, history...) or does it work independently and perform the cleaning in a different way?

It uses built-in cleaning options

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And does it also bring any new/different setting options than the browser defaults to?

Because if it just copies the browser options where it can be set already, then what is the benefit of a "second" control?

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2 hours ago, czesetfan said:

And does it also bring any new/different setting options than the browser defaults to?

Because if it just copies the browser options where it can be set already, then what is the benefit of a "second" control?

I presume it's just another way to do it and makes it easier for non technical users.

A bit like how something like ccleaner and clean temp files but you can do it within windows settings as well

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Got a question under advanced setup browser privacy and security what does it mean by display browser privacy and security notifications? Do you need that enabled for browser privacy and security to work or can you disable it?

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On 11/22/2023 at 5:21 PM, czesetfan said:

And does it also bring any new/different setting options than the browser defaults to?

Because if it just copies the browser options where it can be set already, then what is the benefit of a "second" control?

It allows you to exclude open tabs or whitelisted domains, so you can stay logged in to all your favourite websites, read news, keep gifts in the shopping cart, scroll social media and still cleanup your browser without deleting your browsing sessions.

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On 11/23/2023 at 6:08 PM, Purpleroses said:

Got a question under advanced setup browser privacy and security what does it mean by display browser privacy and security notifications? Do you need that enabled for browser privacy and security to work or can you disable it?

For now, it's related to installation notifiactions. Especially when you install a new browser (or open a new browser profile under an existing one) and you haven't enable it (for Chrome/Edge), when you start the browser it will notify you that extension is not enabled in your browser.

They are not needed for the extension itself to work.

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46 minutes ago, constexpr said:

For now, it's related to installation notifiactions. Especially when you install a new browser (or open a new browser profile under an existing one) and you haven't enable it (for Chrome/Edge), when you start the browser it will notify you that extension is not enabled in your browser.

Check out this posting: https://forum.eset.com/topic/38890-eset-browser-privacy-security-extension-installed-without-user-permission/ .

User states he never received the Eset notification to add BP&S extension in Chrome and it was Chrome itself that alerted on attempt to add a new extension.

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3 hours ago, constexpr said:

It allows you to exclude open tabs or whitelisted domains, so you can stay logged in to all your favourite websites, read news, keep gifts in the shopping cart, scroll social media and still cleanup your browser without deleting your browsing sessions.

Thank you for the clarification.

If I noticed correctly, the option to exclude cookies from deletion is also default in browsers.

For now, the add-on only supports Edge and Chrome. Where can I report interest in other browsers? (Opera, Firefox,...)

Similar search engines. For example, DuckDuckGo.

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40 minutes ago, czesetfan said:

Thank you for the clarification.

If I noticed correctly, the option to exclude cookies from deletion is also default in browsers.

For now, the add-on only supports Edge and Chrome. Where can I report interest in other browsers? (Opera, Firefox,...)

Similar search engines. For example, DuckDuckGo.

Thank you for the clarification.

If I noticed correctly, the option to exclude cookies from deletion is also default in browsers.

For now, the add-on only supports Edge and Chrome. (I have to correct myself: I Firefox) Where can I report interest in other browsers? (Opera, Brave,...)

Similar search engines. For example, DuckDuckGo.

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1 hour ago, czesetfan said:

If I noticed correctly, the option to exclude cookies from deletion is also default in browsers.

I know about Firefox Exceptions for Cookies and Site Data, do you know, how to do it in Chrome/Edge?

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On 11/27/2023 at 7:38 PM, czesetfan said:

What I meant was this.image.thumb.png.2041e11a805e446ebe22bd6f94809329.png

What about Chrome? Also, this is only part of the exclusions, the list of currently open tabs is dynamic, but still relevant for users who have their browers On startup setting changed to "Continue in previous sessions".

As for your interest in support of other browsers or search engines, you have already voted for them with your post

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Yes, I agree. I just see that there is really very little difference in the options. I'm not sure if it was worth creating an add-on because of that.

Also for example "check" web links. When switching to search "images", "video" it doesn't work anymore.

I will still ask you to add alternative search engines. DuckDuckGo, Startpage, etc.

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49 minutes ago, czesetfan said:

I'm not sure if it was worth creating an add-on because of that.

Certainly not, just as we can see a useless picture based on 2 puzzle pieces. But I see your point, wait for the puzzle pieces that are only in the factory right now.

As for DuckDuckGo or Startpage, once you open this search engine, you are no longer a generic user who randomly clicks through the internet. It doesn't mean we shouldn't support these search engines, I just saying that there are people who require proactive protection more than you do.

I appreciate your insight into the topic.

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If I want to disable this component Browser Privacy and Security, I will still be protected from malware and phishing being detected by the standard ESET module that protects the browser, right?

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5 hours ago, Purpleroses said:

If I want to disable this component Browser Privacy and Security, I will still be protected from malware and phishing being detected by the standard ESET module that protects the browser, right?

Yes

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On 11/29/2023 at 10:33 PM, constexpr said:

Certainly not, just as we can see a useless picture based on 2 puzzle pieces. But I see your point, wait for the puzzle pieces that are only in the factory right now.

As for DuckDuckGo or Startpage, once you open this search engine, you are no longer a generic user who randomly clicks through the internet. It doesn't mean we shouldn't support these search engines, I just saying that there are people who require proactive protection more than you do.

I appreciate your insight into the topic.

I understand and look forward to seeing what new things are in the pipeline. 👍🙂

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