Emsisoft antimalware

[f23948 0]

Can I use Emsisoft antimalware and ESET Smart Security Premium at a time on my computer?

[Marcos 4,935]

If it can be installed without real-time protection and other drivers and use it as a 2nd opinion on-demand scanner, it should be possible.

[f23948 0]

How do I install Emsisoft without other  drivers?

Edited December 17, 2021 by f23948

[Minimalist 16]

I suggest that you use their on demand scanner Emsisoft Emergency Kit, which doesn't include real-time protection:

https://www.emsisoft.com/en/home/emergencykit/

[f23948 0]

Can I install Emsisoft without real  protection instead of emergency kit?

[itman 1,630]

3 hours ago, f23948 said:

Can I use Emsisoft antimalware and ESET Smart Security Premium at a time on my computer?

The answer is no per Emsisoft's recommendation: https://help.emsisoft.com/en/1728/are-emsisoft-products-fully-compatible-with-other-security-products/

[f23948 0]

Update: I posted my thread at Emsisoft anti malware forums

Edited December 18, 2021 by f23948

[peteyt 388]

13 hours ago, f23948 said:

Update: I posted my thread at Emsisoft anti malware forums

As they suggest the easier and safer thing to do would be to use the emergency kit. 

Best way to view it is security products have multiple features e.g. realtime malware protection, website protection etc. If something is enabled on two security products on the same PC this could cause a conflict.

For example both could try and block something at the same time but as they are both trying to do the same thing they could clash and cause a crash or potentially allow the thing they where trying to block through.

[itman 1,630]

I will also state that with Emsisoft real-time protection disabled, there could be possible conflicts between it and Eset.

Eset has a HIPS that controls deep behavior inspection plus anti-ransomware protection. Emsisoft also has behavior protection mechanisms. The likelihood that these could conflict with each other is higher in my opinion than real-time protection conflicts.

[NewbyUser 72]

Having licenses for both products, I'd add at least in my opinion and experience there really isn't much need to use both, and Emsi's behavior blocker produces numerous false positives. I haven't used EAM since July and don't plan on renewing. Which also brings up a user privacy issue, at least in my view, when you're not actively using thier product they email you asking why every few months.

Edited December 18, 2021 by NewbyUser

[peteyt 388]

On 12/18/2021 at 8:09 PM, NewbyUser said:

Having licenses for both products, I'd add at least in my opinion and experience there really isn't much need to use both, and Emsi's behavior blocker produces numerous false positives. I haven't used EAM since July and don't plan on renewing. Which also brings up a user privacy issue, at least in my view, when you're not actively using thier product they email you asking why every few months.

Weird. I've never heard of an AV doing that. I could understand them emailing you if you didn't renew, with offers, but  not because your not using the product and you still have an active license 

[NewbyUser 72]

I hadn't hearad of it either lol.

[TheStill 27]

That looks like an automated sales email. You would likely have to log into your account and unsubscribe from whatever email settings they have. 

[peteyt 388]

2 hours ago, TheStill said:

That looks like an automated sales email. You would likely have to log into your account and unsubscribe from whatever email settings they have. 

But it suggests they are also monitoring who is and isn't using their product somehow

[Nightowl 198]

23 minutes ago, peteyt said:

But it suggests they are also monitoring who is and isn't using their product somehow

According to the email content , they look at which update database you currently have and according to that they send these emails , most probably

Second opinion scanners can be like : HirmanPro , RogueKiller , Windows Defender (All can run as second opinion scanners without any real-time components).

[NewbyUser 72]

3 hours ago, Nightowl said:

According to the email content , they look at which update database you currently have and according to that they send these emails , most probably

To me it doesn't matter how they're doing it, the company advertises their supposed total respect of users privacy, so the fact they ARE doing it is the issue. At any rate, I didn't want to hijack this thread and take it off topic,

[itman 1,630]

3 hours ago, Nightowl said:

According to the email content , they look at which update database you currently have and according to that they send these emails , most probably

This would be indicative of the Emsisoft Windows uninstall leaving something on the device that allows it to check for this status.

I would use Emsisoft's "cleaner" to remove all traces of it: https://help.emsisoft.com/en/1787/how-do-i-completely-uninstall-an-emsisoft-product/ .

[NewbyUser 72]

29 minutes ago, itman said:

This would be indicative of the Emsisoft Windows uninstall leaving something on the device that allows it to check for this status.

I would use Emsisoft's "cleaner" to remove all traces of it: https://help.emsisoft.com/en/1787/how-do-i-completely-uninstall-an-emsisoft-product/ .

Already did this back when I removed it in July.

[peteyt 388]

2 hours ago, itman said:

This would be indicative of the Emsisoft Windows uninstall leaving something on the device that allows it to check for this status.

I would use Emsisoft's "cleaner" to remove all traces of it: https://help.emsisoft.com/en/1787/how-do-i-completely-uninstall-an-emsisoft-product/ .

The email does ask if you have removed the product do you mind giving feedback, which sounds like they can see which licenses are in use and which aren't, and automated emails are sent to those that don't seem to be active but have yet to expire

[Nightowl 198]

14 hours ago, itman said:

This would be indicative of the Emsisoft Windows uninstall leaving something on the device that allows it to check for this status.

I would use Emsisoft's "cleaner" to remove all traces of it: https://help.emsisoft.com/en/1787/how-do-i-completely-uninstall-an-emsisoft-product/ .

I doubt so, they just need your last connection/download to the update servers and that's it

[TheStill 27]

17 hours ago, NewbyUser said:

To me it doesn't matter how they're doing it, the company advertises their supposed total respect of users privacy, so the fact they ARE doing it is the issue. At any rate, I didn't want to hijack this thread and take it off topic,

It is like those cookie banners on every website they say they respect your privacy and then show the 100 different companies they are selling your data to and then make it as hard as possible to disable those cookies. 

So any time you see a company claiming to respect your privacy take it with a huge pinch of salt.