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Once again, cannot completely disable window's defender after massive windows update

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Once again windows defender has reactivated itself after enormous win10 update. Have disabled from start menu in 2 paid programs which usually disables it, if memory serves. Going to win security center shows Eset is protecting computer. MS says to disable real time protection, which is already disabled?, so you cannot disable it. It is still showing is sys tray, and among processes as running, (although also showing as disabled)...

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Using Win 10 Task Manager, mouse click on startup tab and see if Win Defender is listed there for some reason. If it is, disable it there and reboot. Then check to see if its still running.


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