MSE performing better than ESET @ AVTest

[itman 1,593]

Below is a recent comparative A-V Comparative did for PC Matic. This test was on Win 10 for Windows Defender. However both MSE and WD use the same signatures, so results should be same.

The test sets consisted of 1000 recent ransomware samples and 4000 other malware samples.

Furthermore, 120 generated polymorphic ransomware samples were used (10 samples per family). The 12 used ransomware families were: Cerber, Crisis, Erebus, FileCoder, FileLocker, Genasom, Havoc, HydraCrypt, Locky, Milicry, Petya, Troldesh.

None of the samples were known to VirusTotal at time of testing. All products were tested with cloud connection and the samples were executed using AV-Comparatives’ Real-World-Testing Framework.

For the false alarm test, 50000 clean files have been used.
 

# of samples in test-set

Polymorphic ransomware 120
Recent ransomware 1000
Other malware 4000
Clean files 50000

Ref.: https://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/avc_sp_pcpitstop_201702_en.pdf

Note WD's score for polymorphic ransomware detection. It is clearly deficient in that area.

 

[novice 20]

ESET scored 100% on all categories ( as most of the reputable AV's : Avast!, AVG, Avira, Bitdefender, Bullguard,Emsisoft, Fsecure,Simantec, TrenMicro etc)

MSE only 96% on polymorphic ransomwares , yet better than Sophos(78%), Webroot(92%),Malwarebytes(93%), Comodo(92%)

I would say, not bad!

[itman 1,593]

5 minutes ago, MSE said:

I would say, not bad!

Unless your nailed by one of the 5 ransomware samples MSE didn't detect

[itman 1,593]

SE Labs in the U.K. just published their 1st quarter 2017 test results here: https://selabs.uk/en/reports/consumers

Eset 100%, MSE 94%. Remember what I stated in a prior posting about averaging AV Labs results?

Eagerly awaiting Malware Research Group 1st quarter 360 test results since MSE/WD does poorly on that test; less than 90%.

Edited April 14, 2017 by itman

[psychopomp1 5]

On 05/04/2017 at 11:19 AM, MSE said:

Now, if you pair up MSE with MBAM Pro v3 , you will get a layered approach in PC security with better results than just using ESET.

Euuurgggghhh....no thanks! IMHO Malwarebytes v3 is almost a virus/malware in itself. It slows down your pc and is a severe memory hog on your pc's resources. Its the complete antithesis of ESET.

[mandiato 19]

On 8.04.2017 at 4:36 AM, MSE said:

see this:

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mmpc/2014/09/22/microsoft-cloud-protection/

Microsoft is using cloud protection to help keep our customers safe. In fact, nearly any detection made by Microsoft security products could be the result of cloud protection. Software developers often ask us how this cloud protection works and how they can improve our cloud’s impression of their software.......

But you forgot about only one small thing. Cloud protection is available only for Enterprise users, and need to be bought. Costs ? Yearly more than Windows subscription itself:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-platform/advanced-threat-analytics-pricing

(80$ per machine or 61.50$ per user yearly for access to cloud protection)

And these prices are a little bit expensive as for free software as you described it here :-)

[novice 20]

5 hours ago, mandiato said:

Cloud protection is available only for Enterprise users

No true, see the attachment.

MAPS is available for MSE for home users.

[mandiato 19]

5 hours ago, MSE said:

No true, see the attachment.

MAPS is available for MSE for home users.

 You say that Microsoft lies on their pages about pricing? Or that MTP is available for end users? Ahh, you talk about MAPS not MTP... OK. So brief description of MAPS is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Active_Protection_Service

And just cite some parts:

Quote

Microsoft Active Protection Service (abbreviated MAPS and formerly known as Microsoft SpyNet) is the network of Windows Defender and Microsoft Security Essentials users that help determine which programs are classified as spyware.

Users determines in that system what is malware or not?

Quote

Computer information is sent (such as IP address, operating system, and Web browser), and personal information might be sent (such as search terms or data entered into forms)

Really? Sending data entered in any web forms is necessary to protect us? Such as login/password to banking system or credit card number doing payments? Is this so good?

[itman 1,593]

MAPS and native SmartScreen in Win 10 are hidden telemetry functions for Microsoft to gather info about the user. But again, "each to their own" as the saying goes. Some users just don't seem to be concerned about that. Also might be relative since Win 10 overall is just one privacy robbing creation. After all, Microsoft gave WIN 10 free in the Home versions. As the saying goes, "You get what you pay for."

[novice 20]

Well, I really cannot help you more...

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mmpc/2015/01/14/maps-in-the-cloud-how-can-it-help-your-enterprise/

and further more read here:

https://www.wired.com/2015/06/us-british-spies-targeted-antivirus-companies/

"An NSA slide describing “Project CAMBERDADA” lists at least 23 antivirus and security firms that were in that spy agency’s sights. They include the Finnish antivirus firm F-Secure, the Slovakian firm Eset..."

There is no privacy, once you are connected to internet.

Edited April 17, 2017 by MSE

[itman 1,593]

5 hours ago, MSE said:

and further more read here:

https://www.wired.com/2015/06/us-british-spies-targeted-antivirus-companies/

"An NSA slide describing “Project CAMBERDADA” lists at least 23 antivirus and security firms that were in that spy agency’s sights. They include the Finnish antivirus firm F-Secure, the Slovakian firm Eset..."

This deals with state sponsored actors spying on organizations. In this case, the organizations were AV vendors. Has nothing to do with the products offered by those organizations.

On the other hand, it is assumed there is direct collusion between the NSA and Microsoft and the methods to support such activities are embedded into the OS and software produced by Microsoft. Note that Eset and other AV vendors that are located in EU countries have to abide by much stricter privacy laws that exist in the U.S.

http://www.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/microsoft-foreign-surveillance-requests-under-fisa-shot-up-in-2016/d/d-id/1328631

Edited April 17, 2017 by itman