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I did my tests while writing results with micro SD and Camcorder yesterday. With full protection, or partial protection, there is no difference on MicroSD, exploring and copying are at normal speed (I do not know the micro SD class I have) There is no difference too with camcorder between full protection and partial, this is slow, in both cases. As we saw earlier that the bad guy was the "device control", and as this is not the parameter Marcos said me to switch off, then the results was predictable I agree on the camcorder, maybe somthing special with it, I formated it at the beginning of the tests of this thread. So filesystem and sector boot should be "clear" (faults safe). But, if I remember well, in older versions of ESS, I did not have such slow downs. I could install an older version (if still downloable somewhere ?) on a machine to test ...

Hello Did some more tests, as you asked me to So, this slow down does not occur on other external devices, tested on 3 Hard drives (NTFS/FAT32), and a USB to µSD adapter with 4GB µSD formated in FAT32, as the camcorder is too. I paused the permanent protection to copy the whole DCIM folder and all its subfolders and pictures onto the µSD After that, I unplugged both the camcorder and the µSD. Then, I plugged on another USB port the µSD again, and proceeded as I normaly do with the camcorder, "scan later" in ESS dialbox, and "open directory" in windows dialbox, then exploring the pictures folders and their content is instant, and copy from µSD to HDD reached and average 16Mb/s, this is lower than with the camcorder but thinking this is due to µSD class Then, I turned protection back ON, and plugged another time, and proceeded as before, exploring and copying. The pictures exploration is instant too, and the copy reached the same average 16Mb/s Then, I did as Marcos said, unboxing only "Removable media access" box while leaving "Device control" box checked. Exploring is slow, and opening a picture takes about 30 seconds, (it start showing picture, dirty at 20 seconds, and the picture is clear at 30)

Hello Still nod dead, and found enough time to do tests twice : So, as you asked : Deactivate only "Scan on file open"=> Takes around 05 seconds to go to one photo to another one when viewed directly on camcorder => Reaches 20 Mo/sec when copy/paste a photo directory from camcorder to computer Deactivate only "Scan on file creation" Deactivate only "Scan on file execution" => Same results for both cases : => Takes 25 seconds to go to one photo to another one => Reaches 400 Ko/s in copy Deactivate only "Media to scan: Device control"=> Instant opening of photos => Reaches 36 Mo/s in copy So, here again, the setting that modify the best the results is the Device Control. And, maybe the translation in french will help you to understand the difference between the two settings : Media to scan : Device control => Support à analyser : Contrôle de périphérique Scan on : Removable media access => Analyser quand : Accès aux supports amovibles I have an idea about the first, I think ESET monitors how the integrated peripherals controler of windows reacts on peripherals changes (plug, unplug, settings changes) For the second, I think ESET reacts by itself on removable medias.

Hello I finally found enough time to do your test test procedure Tests conditions were : Offline computer Reboot after each change for "HIPS" and "Removable media" settings changes Camcorder turned off and USB cable disconnected after each try Procedure : => Computer placed in condition (reboot included if needed) => Usb cable connection => Camcorder "ON" => Windows dialbox : "open directory" / Eset dialbox : "analyse another time" => Navigate to DCIM subfolders => Copy of one of DCIM subfolder onto computer Here are the results for each try, I tested DCIM subfolder access rapidity and copy transfers speed 1 : Slow, 240 KB/S 2 : Instant, 30 MB/S (I choosed desactivated for removable media) 3 : Slow, 50 KB/S 4 : Slow, 46 KB/S 5 : Instant, 34 MB/S (I choosed desactivated for removable media) So, the relevant setting that modify results is "real time protection", I suppose I will have to pause it each time I would like to access/copy to my camcorder content.

Ok, I read, read, read, and finally understand what you mean in your previous post, I will try this tomorrow, I am done for today, good night, and thank you for your help and patience

You will surely curse me, but can you make a pic explaining case 1 for example please ?

Test suite : So, with previous setting turned ON (and a computer restart) => "ask me what to do when removable media inserted" : I plugged the camcorder (containing photos and videos), and as before. Slow, and NOD does nothing : Accessing a pics folder : Slowwww And NOD doing nothing I do not understand this : Marcos, post#15 : "Please narrow it down by temporarily disabling "Removable media access" box in the real-time protection setup, real-time protection as such and HIPS, one by one. To disable HIPS effectively, a computer restart will be required." Please explain what do you want me to do, with pics please ?

Ok, so, I plugged some devices, 2x HDD, 1 usb/micro SD adapter with SD onto it. Each time, ESET did not asked anything, and no scan launched. Strange, I remember ESET asked me what to do with external device, earlier, and now, nothing, nothing is done But, I searched why in settings, and settings menus, and found this : "Action to do when amovible media inserted" was unticked, so I suppose none of the two options were executed, no automatic scan, and no popup to choose what to do. Marcos was right in the post #11, I will tick the box and ask actions to do, as I remember how it worked before.

Sorry, For question 1, yes, ESET asks me what to do when I plug external devices, I would like to verify that too this afternoon cause sometimes a scan is running even if I choose "scan later", when I work on my usb keys or HDD I always report scans. But I know sometimes I have to stop manually running scan. For question 2, yes of course, but I will have to fill a bit the camcorder HDD first, as I do not have the same issue with any other device.

I am sure at 90% that ESS does not launch scan on camcorder when plugging it on computer, BUT, access to pics folders is slow anyway, and transfers go at 550ko/s max. Videos folder is fastly accessed, not involved, transfers of videos from camcorder to computer are fast too. But, if I pause ESS with notification icon menu "permanent protection" disabled "until next restart", then pics folder is accessed fastly, miniatures are shown instantly, and transfers go fast. I will test this after work, and after taking a lot of shots first

I agree this forum has a upload feature easier to use I thought No other problems than the one which brings me here Checkbox unticked, so no automatic action

Ok, so, I plugged the camcorder again As I mentionned before, nothing happens with ESS, no pop-up, no scan (maybe because I formated drive recently and there is nothing on it to scan ) But, maybe some clues with these pics : Here is the camcorder as it appears on "My computer" Properties on the camcorder "drive" I see another device "Matshita", seems to be the card reader of the camcorder, but as I do not have card in slot, drive does not appear in "My computer", never a card was inserted in the slot, so I am sure this is a not a "missing device" problem Also, in drives controls, the camcorder card reader appears at letter R: I do not understand why, I do not have so many drivers or readers to push this cardreader to be R: I tried unplugging/replugging camcorders three times, but letters remains R: so, not a problem here too, just strange I will end for today, I am low battery, I will make some videos and a lot of photos for further tests tomorrow

Hello, For the link yes, I copied/pasted the previous one but forgot to modify it after writing my text. Link modified after, maybe when you were answering ... So, as I said before, the peripheral control is disabled, as default. Also, when I plug an external HDD or USB key, ESS launches by its own a scan on the device (that is cool), but, on the camcorder (wich is considered as a amovible disk with read-only rights) ESS does not launches anything. Maybe this is the read-only status of the device which is my problem with ESS ? And for the forum upload form, I tried posting images with BBcodes [ img ] but nothing appeared except in preview window

Ok, this other ? For peripherals ? Is unchecked too. hxxp://geminisam.free.fr/Images/Divers/ESS03.jpg I think I will wait further updates from ESS, maybe the next version will resolve the matter. When I was under Eset V5 I did not have slow downs on accessing my camcorder. So maybe the V8 will not too Thanks anyway for help

Ok seen, But only a box to automatise or not actions to do when media inserted, unticked by default hxxp://geminisam.free.fr/Images/Divers/ESS02.jpg